From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan@unisoc.com>
Cc: vincent.guittot@linaro.org, mingo@redhat.com,
juri.lelli@redhat.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
bristot@redhat.com, vschneid@redhat.com, qyousef@layalina.io,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ke.wang@unisoc.com,
zhaoyang.huang@unisoc.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] sched/fair: update the vruntime to be max vruntime when yield
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:40:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y/zO8WZV2kvcU78b@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230222080314.2146-1-xuewen.yan@unisoc.com>
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 04:03:14PM +0800, Xuewen Yan wrote:
> When task call the sched_yield, cfs would set the cfs's skip buddy.
> If there is no other task call the sched_yield syscall, the task would
> always be skiped when there are tasks in rq.
So you have two tasks A) which does sched_yield() and becomes ->skip,
and B) which is while(1). And you're saying that once A does it's thing,
B runs forever and starves A?
> As a result, the task's
> vruntime would not be updated for long time, and the cfs's min_vruntime
> is almost not updated.
But the condition in pick_next_entity() should ensure that we still pick
->skip when it becomes too old. Specifically, when it gets more than
wakeup_gran() behind.
> When this scenario happens, when the yield task had wait for a long time,
> and other tasks run a long time, once there is other task call the sched_yield,
> the cfs's skip_buddy is covered, at this time, the first task can run normally,
> but the task's vruntime is small, as a result, the task would always run,
> because other task's vruntime is big. This would lead to other tasks can not
> run for a long time.
I'm not seeing how this could happen, it should never get behind that
far.
Additionally, check_preempt_tick() will explicitly clear the buddies
when it finds the current task has consumed it's ideal slice.
I really cannot see how your scenario can happen.
> In order to mitigate this, update the yield_task's vruntime to be cfs's max vruntime.
> This way, the cfs's min vruntime can be updated as the process running.
This is a bad solution, SCHED_IDLE tasks have very low weight and can be
shot really far to the right, leading to other trouble.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-27 15:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-22 8:03 Xuewen Yan
2023-02-27 1:51 ` Xuewen Yan
2023-02-27 15:40 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-02-27 16:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-02-27 22:07 ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-28 7:42 ` Xuewen Yan
2023-02-28 7:53 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-28 8:20 ` Xuewen Yan
2023-02-28 9:07 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-28 13:31 ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-28 13:45 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-03-01 7:30 ` Xuewen Yan
2023-03-01 8:09 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-03-01 8:20 ` Xuewen Yan
2023-03-01 11:23 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-03-01 13:29 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-06-30 14:40 ` Qais Yousef
2023-08-21 7:51 ` Xuewen Yan
2023-08-22 15:54 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-08-23 2:03 ` Xuewen Yan
2023-08-26 20:46 ` Qais Yousef
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