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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: "Wu, Wentong" <wentong.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	"mchehab@kernel.org" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Pandruvada, Srinivas" <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>,
	"pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com" 
	<pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	"Wang, Zhifeng" <zhifeng.wang@intel.com>,
	"Ye, Xiang" <xiang.ye@intel.com>,
	"Qiu, Tian Shu" <tian.shu.qiu@intel.com>,
	"Cao, Bingbu" <bingbu.cao@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add acquire/release API for ivsc
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 13:19:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+9iwMbW0kk6eJKe@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR11MB43166A8D4225C8460C29803B8DA19@DM6PR11MB4316.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Wentong,

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 06:10:22AM +0000, Wu, Wentong wrote:
> On Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 5:46 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 10:03:29AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > > On 2/14/23 17:06, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:23:47AM +0800, Wentong Wu wrote:
> > > >> IVSC directly connects to camera sensor on source side, and on
> > > >> output side it not only connects ISH via I2C, but also exposes MIPI
> > > >> CSI-2 interface to output camera sensor data. IVSC can use the
> > > >> camera sensor data to do AI algorithm, and send the results to ISH.
> > > >> On the other end, IVSC can share camera sensor to host by routing
> > > >> the raw camera sensor data to the exposed MIPI CSI-2 interface. But
> > > >> they can not work at the same time, so software APIs are defined to
> > > >> sync the ownership.
> > > >>
> > > >> This commit defines the interfaces between IVSC and camera sensor
> > > >> driver in include/linux/ivsc.h. The camera driver controls
> > > >> ownership of the CSI-2 link and sensor with the acquire/release
> > > >> APIs. When acquiring camera, lane number and link freq are also
> > > >> required by IVSC frame router.
> > > >
> > > > The more I learn about this system, the more I'm inclined to think
> > > > this functionality should be exposed as a V4L2 sub-device. IVSC
> > > > doesn't really do anything to the data (as long as it directs it
> > > > towards the CSI-2 receiver in the SoC), but it is definitely
> > > > part of the image pipeline.
> > >
> > > Yes I happened to discuss this exact same thing with Laurent at FOSDEM
> > > and we also came to the conclusion that the IVSC chip should be
> > > modeled as a V4L2 sub-device.
> > 
> > Agreed.
> 
> Thanks for your quick review and conclusion, I'm fresh to media
> sub-system, is there any convention that I should follow to upstream
> this kind of v4l2 sub-device driver so that not too much back and
> forth?

This is a tentative proposal, as I'm not very familiar with the hardware
architecture:

- The subdev should have two pads, a sink pad connected to the camera
  sensor, and a source pad connected to the CSI-2 receiver in the IPU.

- As for any new driver, the subdev driver should use the active state
  managed by the v4l2-subdev core. This requires calling
  v4l2_subdev_init_finalize() at probe time. See
  https://git.linuxtv.org/media_tree.git/commit/?id=a2514b9a634a for an
  example of a subdev driver converted to this mechanism.

- As we're talking about CSI-2, the subdev driver should use the streams
  API that was recently merged, and in particular support the
  .get_frame_desc(), .set_routing(), .enable_streams() and
  .disable_streams() operations.

- I don't see a need to support V4L2 controls in the subdev driver, but
  I may be missing something.

- The driver should be validated with v4l2-compliance, part of
  v4l-utils.

> > > > I suppose the intended use cases assume a single instance of IVSC
> > > > (as well as MEI) but there can, and often are, be multiple camera
> > > > sensors in the system. The decision whether to request pass-through
> > > > from IVCS can't be done in the camera sensor driver, and should not
> > > > be visible to the camera sensor driver. Exposing IVSC as a V4L2
> > > > sub-device makes this trivial to address, as the IVSC driver's V4L2
> > > > sub-device video s_stream() operation gets called before streaming is started.
> > > >
> > > > The information whether IVSC is found between the camera sensor and
> > > > the host's CSI-2 receiver (IPU in this case) should come from system
> > > > firmware and accessed most probably by what is called cio2-bridge at
> > > > the moment.
> > > >
> > > > The privacy status can be a V4L2 control.
> > > >
> > > > Also cc Hans.
> > > >
> > > >> Signed-off-by: Wentong Wu <wentong.wu@intel.com>
> > > >> ---
> > > >>  drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/Makefile |  1 +
> > > >>  drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/ivsc.c   | 84 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >>  include/linux/ivsc.h                  | 55 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > >>  3 files changed, 140 insertions(+)  create mode 100644
> > > >> drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/ivsc.c

[snip]

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-17 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-13  2:23 [PATCH v2 0/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add driver of Intel Visual Sensing Controller(IVSC) Wentong Wu
2023-02-13  2:23 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add CSI submodule Wentong Wu
2023-02-14 21:32   ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-13  2:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add ACE submodule Wentong Wu
2023-02-13  2:23 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add acquire/release API for ivsc Wentong Wu
2023-02-14 16:06   ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-15  9:03     ` Hans de Goede
2023-02-15  9:45       ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-02-17  6:10         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-17 11:19           ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2023-02-20  3:50             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-20  8:36               ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-20  8:57                 ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-20  9:03                   ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-01  0:09                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-02-28  6:42             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-28  6:35     ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-28  8:23       ` Sakari Ailus
2023-03-01  7:26         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-01 11:11           ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-13  3:20 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add driver of Intel Visual Sensing Controller(IVSC) Pandruvada, Srinivas
2023-02-14  6:34   ` Wu, Wentong
     [not found] ` <20230213034202.2926-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-14  6:25   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add CSI submodule Wu, Wentong
     [not found]   ` <20230214083533.3410-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-14 12:40     ` Wu, Wentong
     [not found]     ` <20230214235405.3587-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-17  5:52       ` Wu, Wentong
     [not found]       ` <20230217062815.1682-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-17  7:37         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-15  9:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add driver of Intel Visual Sensing Controller(IVSC) Laurent Pinchart
2023-02-15 12:09   ` Bingbu Cao
2023-02-16 13:12     ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-17  1:43       ` Bingbu Cao
2023-02-17  6:28         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-17 10:49           ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-20  3:45             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-17  6:20   ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-17 11:12     ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-02-20  4:00       ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-01 10:34 ` Sakari Ailus
2023-03-01 10:41   ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-07  8:17     ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-07  8:30       ` Sakari Ailus
2023-03-07  8:40         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-07  9:10           ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-09  1:08             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-09  9:28               ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-09 13:21                 ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-09 15:24                   ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-16  2:58                     ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-16  9:03                       ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-17  7:30                         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-17  8:58                           ` Sakari Ailus
2023-03-19 13:09                             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-16  8:11                     ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-16  8:37                       ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-03  6:10   ` Wu, Wentong

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