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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Li, Xin3" <xin3.li@intel.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>, "Christopherson,,
	Sean" <seanjc@google.com>, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH 5/6] KVM: x86/VMX: add kvm_vmx_reinject_nmi_irq() for NMI/IRQ reinjection
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 10:17:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3NZQBJugRt07udw@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR1101MB2161299749E12D484DE9302BA8049@BN6PR1101MB2161.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 07:50:49AM +0000, Li, Xin3 wrote:
> > > > But what about NMIs, afaict this is all horribly broken for NMIs.
> > > >
> > > > So the whole VMX thing latches the NMI (which stops NMI recursion),
> > right?
> > > >
> > > > But then you drop out of noinstr code, which means any random
> > > > exception can happen (kprobes #BP, hw_breakpoint #DB, or even #PF
> > > > due to random nonsense like *SAN). This exception will do IRET and
> > > > clear the NMI latch, all before you get to run any of the NMI code.
> > >
> > > What you said here implies that we have this problem in the existing code.
> > > Because a fake iret stack is created to call the NMI handler in the
> > > IDT NMI descriptor, which lastly executes the IRET instruction.
> > 
> > I can't follow; of course the IDT handler terminates with IRET, it has to no?
> 
> With FRED, ERETS/ERETU replace IRET, and use bit 28 of the popped CS field
> to control whether to unblock NMI. If bit 28 of the field (above the selector)
> is 1, ERETS/ERETU unblocks NMIs.

Yes, I know that. It is one of the many improvements FRED brings.
Ideally the IBT WAIT-FOR-ENDBR state also gets squirreled away in the
hardware exception frame, but that's still up in the air I believe :/

Anyway.. given there is interrupt priority and NMI is pretty much on top
of everything else the reinject crap *should* run NMI first. That way
NMI runs with the latch disabled and whatever other pending interrupts
will run later.

But that all is still broken because afaict the current code also leaves
noinstr -- and once you leave noinstr (or use a static_key, static_call
or anything else that *can* change at runtime) you can't guarantee
nothing.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-15  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-10  6:15 [RESEND PATCH 0/6] x86/traps,VMX: implement software based NMI/IRQ dispatch for VMX " Xin Li
2022-11-10  6:15 ` [RESEND PATCH 1/6] x86/traps: let common_interrupt() handle IRQ_MOVE_CLEANUP_VECTOR Xin Li
2022-11-10 18:59   ` Ashok Raj
2022-11-10 22:09     ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-10  6:15 ` [RESEND PATCH 2/6] x86/traps: add a system interrupt table for system interrupt dispatch Xin Li
2022-11-10  8:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-10 19:55     ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-10 20:36       ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-10 21:12         ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-11-10 23:00           ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-11  0:08             ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-11-11  3:03               ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-11  8:58         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-11  1:12       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-11  3:54         ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-11  8:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-11 22:07       ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-11-12  9:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-10  6:15 ` [RESEND PATCH 3/6] x86/traps: add install_system_interrupt_handler() Xin Li
2022-11-10  6:15 ` [RESEND PATCH 4/6] x86/traps: add external_interrupt() to dispatch external interrupts Xin Li
2022-11-10 16:24   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-10 18:02     ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-10 20:10       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-10  6:15 ` [RESEND PATCH 5/6] KVM: x86/VMX: add kvm_vmx_reinject_nmi_irq() for NMI/IRQ reinjection Xin Li
2022-11-10  9:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-10 20:53     ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-11  9:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-11 12:04         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-11-11 12:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-11 12:48             ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-11-11 14:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-11 16:35                 ` Andrew Cooper
2022-11-11 22:22                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-11-12  0:08                     ` Andrew Cooper
2022-11-11 18:06                 ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-11 19:33                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-12  6:35                     ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-14  4:39                     ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-14  9:08                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-15  7:50                         ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-15  9:17                           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-11-17  3:37                             ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-17 15:51                               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-18  0:05                                 ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-22 13:00                                   ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-22 20:52                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-23  8:31                                       ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-23 20:42                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-24  3:40                                           ` Li, Xin3
2022-11-28 16:26                                             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-24  9:46                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-28 19:05                                             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-23  9:16                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-23 19:18                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-11-11 22:15                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-11-10  6:15 ` [RESEND PATCH 6/6] x86/traps: remove unused NMI entry exc_nmi_noist() Xin Li

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