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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Cc: Jinke Han <hanjinke.666@bytedance.com>,
	josef@toxicpanda.com, axboe@kernel.dk, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	yinxin.x@bytedance.com, jack@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] blk-throtl: Introduce sync and async queues for blk-throtl
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 07:35:59 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y7cKf7IH+FJ/6IyV@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230105161854.GA1259@blackbody.suse.cz>

Hello,

On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 05:18:54PM +0100, Michal Koutný wrote:
> I guess similar problem would arise for devices that are "naturally"
> slow.
> Then:
> a) it must have been solved elsewhere in the block layer (but it's
>    broken),
> b) it should be solved generically in the block layer (thus this is only
>    a partial solution).

Hard limits tend to make this sort of problems a lot more pronounced because
the existing mechanisms tend to break down for the users which are severely
throttled down even while the device as a whole is fairly idle. cpu.max
often triggers severe priority inversions too, so it isn't too surprising
that people hit severe priority inversion issues w/ io.max.

Another problem with blk-throttle is that it doesn't prioritize shared IOs
identified by bio_issue_as_root_blkg() like iolatency and iocost do, so
there can be very severe priority inversions when e.g. journal commit gets
trapped in a low priority cgroup further exacerbating issues like this.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-05 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-26 13:05 Jinke Han
2022-12-26 15:24 ` kernel test robot
2023-01-04 22:11 ` Tejun Heo
2023-01-05  7:28   ` [External] " hanjinke
2023-01-05 16:18 ` Michal Koutný
2023-01-05 17:35   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2023-01-05 19:22     ` Michal Koutný
2023-01-05 21:39       ` Tejun Heo
2023-01-06 15:38   ` Jan Kara
2023-01-06 16:58     ` Tejun Heo
2023-01-06 18:07       ` [External] " hanjinke
2023-01-06 18:15         ` Tejun Heo
2023-01-07  4:44           ` hanjinke
2023-01-09 18:08             ` Tejun Heo
2023-01-10 13:07               ` hanjinke
2023-01-11 12:35         ` Michal Koutný
2023-01-12  3:26           ` hanjinke
2023-01-09 10:59       ` Jan Kara
2023-01-09 17:10         ` Tejun Heo

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