From: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: "Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
"Leonardo Brás" <leobras@redhat.com>,
"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"Shakeel Butt" <shakeelb@google.com>,
"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Frederic Weisbecker" <fweisbecker@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Introduce memcg_stock_pcp remote draining
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 10:18:03 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y9QVWwAreTlDVdZ0@P9FQF9L96D.corp.robot.car> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y9PYe1X7dRQOcahg@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 02:58:19PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 27-01-23 08:11:04, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > [Cc Frederic]
> >
> > On Thu 26-01-23 15:12:35, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 08:41:34AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > > Essentially each cpu will try to grab the remains of the memory quota
> > > > > and move it locally. I wonder in such circumstances if we need to disable the pcp-caching
> > > > > on per-cgroup basis.
> > > >
> > > > I think it would be more than sufficient to disable pcp charging on an
> > > > isolated cpu.
> > >
> > > It might have significant performance consequences.
> >
> > Is it really significant?
> >
> > > I'd rather opt out of stock draining for isolated cpus: it might slightly reduce
> > > the accuracy of memory limits and slightly increase the memory footprint (all
> > > those dying memcgs...), but the impact will be limited. Actually it is limited
> > > by the number of cpus.
> >
> > Hmm, OK, I have misunderstood your proposal. Yes, the overal pcp charges
> > potentially left behind should be small and that shouldn't really be a
> > concern for memcg oom situations (unless the limit is very small and
> > workloads on isolated cpus using small hard limits is way beyond my
> > imagination).
> >
> > My first thought was that those charges could be left behind without any
> > upper bound but in reality sooner or later something should be running
> > on those cpus and if the memcg is gone the pcp cache would get refilled
> > and old charges gone.
> >
> > So yes, this is actually a better and even simpler solution. All we need
> > is something like this
> > diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > index ab457f0394ab..13b84bbd70ba 100644
> > --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> > +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > @@ -2344,6 +2344,9 @@ static void drain_all_stock(struct mem_cgroup *root_memcg)
> > struct mem_cgroup *memcg;
> > bool flush = false;
> >
> > + if (cpu_is_isolated(cpu))
> > + continue;
> > +
> > rcu_read_lock();
> > memcg = stock->cached;
> > if (memcg && stock->nr_pages &&
>
> Btw. this would be over pessimistic. The following should make more
> sense:
> diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
> index ab457f0394ab..55e440e54504 100644
> --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> @@ -2357,7 +2357,7 @@ static void drain_all_stock(struct mem_cgroup *root_memcg)
> !test_and_set_bit(FLUSHING_CACHED_CHARGE, &stock->flags)) {
> if (cpu == curcpu)
> drain_local_stock(&stock->work);
> - else
> + else if (!cpu_is_isolated(cpu))
> schedule_work_on(cpu, &stock->work);
> }
> }
Yes, this is exactly what I was thinking of. It should solve the problem
for isolated cpus well enough without introducing an overhead for everybody else.
If you'll make a proper patch, please add my
Acked-by: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
I understand the concerns regarding spurious OOMs on 256-cores machine,
but I guess they are somewhat theoretical and also possible with the current code
(e.g. one ooming cgroup can effectively block draining for everybody else).
Thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-27 18:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-25 7:34 Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25 7:34 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm/memcontrol: Align percpu memcg_stock to cache Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25 7:34 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm/memcontrol: Change stock_lock type from local_lock_t to spinlock_t Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25 7:35 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm/memcontrol: Reorder memcg_stock_pcp members to avoid holes Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25 7:35 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm/memcontrol: Perform all stock drain in current CPU Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25 7:35 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] mm/memcontrol: Remove flags from memcg_stock_pcp Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25 8:33 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Introduce memcg_stock_pcp remote draining Michal Hocko
2023-01-25 11:06 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-25 11:39 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-25 18:22 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-25 23:14 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-01-26 7:41 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-26 18:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-26 19:20 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 0:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-27 6:58 ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-01 18:31 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-01-26 23:12 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-01-27 7:11 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 7:22 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27 8:12 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27 9:23 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 13:03 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-01-27 13:58 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 18:18 ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2023-02-03 15:21 ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-03 19:25 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-13 13:36 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 7:14 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27 7:20 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 7:35 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27 9:29 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 19:29 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27 23:50 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-01-26 18:19 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-27 5:40 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-26 7:45 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-26 18:14 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-26 19:13 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 6:55 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-31 11:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-02-01 4:36 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-02-01 12:52 ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-01 12:41 ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-04 4:55 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-02-05 19:49 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-07 3:18 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-02-08 19:23 ` Roman Gushchin
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