From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Jing Liu <jing2.liu@linux.intel.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
jing2.liu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 3/7] kvm: x86: XSAVE state and XFD MSRs context switch
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 13:55:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YCGJHme0fBk+sno3@Konrads-MacBook-Pro.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c293cdbd-502c-d598-3166-4e177ac21c7a@redhat.com>
On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 07:12:22PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 08/02/21 19:04, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > That said, the case where we saw MSR autoload as faster involved EFER, and
> > > we decided that it was due to TLB flushes (commit f6577a5fa15d, "x86, kvm,
> > > vmx: Always use LOAD_IA32_EFER if available", 2014-11-12). Do you know if
> > > RDMSR/WRMSR is always slower than MSR autoload?
> > RDMSR/WRMSR may be marginally slower, but only because the autoload stuff avoids
> > serializing the pipeline after every MSR.
>
> That's probably adding up quickly...
>
> > The autoload paths are effectively
> > just wrappers around the WRMSR ucode, plus some extra VM-Enter specific checks,
> > as ucode needs to perform all the normal fault checks on the index and value.
> > On the flip side, if the load lists are dynamically constructed, I suspect the
> > code overhead of walking the lists negates any advantages of the load lists.
>
> ... but yeah this is not very encouraging.
>
> Context switch time is a problem for XFD. In a VM that uses AMX, most
> threads in the guest will have nonzero XFD but the vCPU thread itself will
> have zero XFD. So as soon as one thread in the VM forces the vCPU thread to
> clear XFD, you pay a price on all vmexits and vmentries.
>
> However, running the host with _more_ bits set than necessary in XFD should
> not be a problem as long as the host doesn't use the AMX instructions. So
> perhaps Jing can look into keeping XFD=0 for as little time as possible, and
> XFD=host_XFD|guest_XFD as much as possible.
This sounds like the lazy-fpu (eagerfpu?) that used to be part of the
kernel? I recall that we had a CVE for that - so it may also be worth
double-checking that we don't reintroduce that one.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-08 20:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-07 15:42 [PATCH RFC 0/7] Introduce support for guest AMX feature Jing Liu
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 1/7] kvm: x86: Expose XFD CPUID to guest Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-06-07 3:27 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 2/7] kvm: x86: Introduce XFD MSRs as passthrough " Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-24 21:57 ` Jim Mattson
2021-06-02 3:12 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-06-23 17:50 ` Dave Hansen
2021-06-28 2:00 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-06-29 17:58 ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-06 7:33 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 3/7] kvm: x86: XSAVE state and XFD MSRs context switch Jing Liu
2021-02-07 11:49 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-02-08 3:35 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-08 10:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-08 17:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-08 17:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-08 18:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-08 18:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-08 18:55 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2021-02-22 8:51 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-22 8:36 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 4/7] kvm: x86: Add new ioctls for XSAVE extension Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-26 6:09 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-05-26 14:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-06-01 10:24 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-06-07 5:23 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-05-24 22:06 ` Jim Mattson
2021-05-26 6:11 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 5/7] kvm: x86: Revise CPUID.D.1.EBX for alignment rule Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-06-03 4:45 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 6/7] kvm: x86: Add AMX_TILE, AMX_INT8 and AMX_BF16 support Jing Liu
2021-02-07 15:42 ` [PATCH RFC 7/7] kvm: x86: AMX XCR0 support for guest Jing Liu
2021-05-24 21:53 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-26 7:54 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-05-26 14:54 ` Sean Christopherson
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