From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH next v1 1/3] printk: track/limit recursion
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 16:07:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YFiyyWnROBD29tC5@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YFh770T97jwQLRKu@google.com>
On Mon 2021-03-22 20:13:51, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (21/03/22 11:53), John Ogness wrote:
> > On 2021-03-21, Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org> wrote:
> > >> @@ -2055,6 +2122,9 @@ int vprintk_store(int facility, int level,
> > >> */
> > >> ts_nsec = local_clock();
> > >>
> > >> + if (!printk_enter_irqsave(&irqflags))
> > >> + return 0;
> > >
> > > I guess it can be interesting to somehow signal us that we had
> > > printk() recursion overflow, and how many messages we lost.
> >
> > Honestly, if we hit 3 levels of recursion, we are probably dealing with
> > an infinite recursion issue.
>
> I tend to agree.
>
> > I do not see the value of counting the overflows in that case. The
> > logged messages at that recursion level would ben enough to point
> > us to the problem.
> >
> > > 3 levels of recursion seem like reasonable limit, but I maybe wouldn't
> > > mind one extra level.
> >
> > With 3 levels, we will see all the messages of:
> >
> > printk -> WARN_ON -> WARN_ON -> WARN_ON
This is the worst case. Many messages are just a single line or
we use WARN_ON_ONCE.
> Well, not necessarily this simple.
>
> printk
> vsprintf
> handle_foo_specifier
> printk
> call_console_drivers
> timekeeping
> printk
> vsprintf
>
> We saw in the past that enabling CONFIG_DEBUG_OBJECTS (if I'm not
> mistaken) can add quite a bit of extra printk recursion paths.
>
> We also have other CONFIG_DEBUG_* config options that can pop up as
> recursive printk-s here and there. For instance, from vsprintf::foo_specifier()
> where we escape from printk() to various kernel subsystems: net, block,
> etc.
>
> Maybe sometimes on level 3+ we'll see something interesting,
> but I've no strong opinion on this.
Honestly, my first reaction was the same as Sergey's. But John has
a point that too many levels might be hard to read.
I think that 3 levels are a good start. We could always change it when we
hit a problem in practice.
> > Keep in mind that each additional level causes the reading of the logs
> > to be significantly more complex. Each level increases the output
> > exponentially:
>
> Yes, I realize that. That's why I suggested that maybe recursive
> printk-s can have some special extra prefix. Recursive printk-s
> will interleave with whatever is being printed on this_cpu, so
> prefix might be helpful.
This is an interesting area, definitely. I am not sure if it is worth
it though.
I would keep it simple and cut output on 3rd level for now. We could
always improve it when we hit a problem in the real life.
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-22 15:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-16 23:33 [PATCH next v1 0/3] printk: remove safe buffers John Ogness
2021-03-16 23:33 ` [PATCH next v1 1/3] printk: track/limit recursion John Ogness
2021-03-21 5:34 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-03-22 10:53 ` John Ogness
2021-03-22 11:13 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-03-22 15:07 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2021-03-22 14:49 ` Petr Mladek
2021-03-23 21:32 ` John Ogness
2021-03-24 8:41 ` Petr Mladek
2021-03-16 23:33 ` [PATCH next v1 2/3] printk: remove safe buffers John Ogness
2021-03-21 5:26 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-03-22 11:16 ` John Ogness
2021-03-22 18:02 ` Petr Mladek
2021-03-22 21:58 ` John Ogness
2021-03-23 9:46 ` Petr Mladek
2021-03-23 10:47 ` Petr Mladek
2021-03-26 11:12 ` John Ogness
2021-03-29 10:04 ` Petr Mladek
2021-03-29 15:10 ` John Ogness
2021-03-29 15:13 ` John Ogness
2021-03-16 23:33 ` [PATCH next v1 3/3] printk: convert @syslog_lock to spin_lock John Ogness
2021-03-23 12:01 ` Petr Mladek
2021-03-26 11:23 ` John Ogness
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