mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Niklas Cassel <Niklas.Cassel@wdc.com>
To: Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>
Cc: "dsterba@suse.cz" <dsterba@suse.cz>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] blk-zoned: allow BLKREPORTZONE without CAP_SYS_ADMIN
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 11:59:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YLjEOMaxk8/8GOex@x1-carbon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR04MB708127C72BDC03B446997DACE73C9@DM6PR04MB7081.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 11:20:33AM +0000, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> On 2021/06/03 19:07, David Sterba wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 10:00:08AM +0000, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> >> On 2021/06/03 18:54, David Sterba wrote:
> >>> On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 01:54:53PM +0000, Niklas Cassel wrote:
> >>>> From: Niklas Cassel <niklas.cassel@wdc.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> Performing a BLKREPORTZONE operation should be allowed under the same
> >>>> permissions as read(). (read() does not require CAP_SYS_ADMIN).
> >>>>
> >>>> Remove the CAP_SYS_ADMIN requirement, and instead check that the fd was
> >>>> successfully opened with FMODE_READ. This way BLKREPORTZONE will match
> >>>> the access control requirement of read().
> >>>
> >>> Does this mean that a process that does not have read nor write access
> >>> to the device itself (blocks) is capable of reading the zone
> >>> information? Eg. some monitoring tool.
> >>
> >> With this change, to do a report zones, the process will only need to have read
> >> access to the device. And if it has read access, it also means that it can read
> >> the zones content.
> > 
> > Ok, so this is a bit restricting. The zone information is like block
> > device metadata, comparing it to a file that has permissionx 0600 I can
> > see the all the stat info (name, tiemstamps) but can't read the data.
> > 
> > But as the ioctl work, it needs a file descriptor and there's probably
> > no way to separate the permissions to read blocks and just the metadata.
> > For a monitoring/reporting tool this would be useful. Eg. for btrfs it
> > could be part of filesystem status overview regarding full or near-full
> > zones and emitting an early warning or poking some service to start the
> > reclaim.
> 
> You lost me... the change is less restrictive than before because the process
> does not need SYS_CAP_ADMIN anymore. The block device file open is untouched, no
> change. So whatever process could open it before, will still be able to do so as
> is. More processes will be able to do report zones with the change. That is all
> really that changes, so I do not see what potentially breaks, nor how this may
> prevent writing some monitoring tool. Whoever can open the block device file has
> FMODE_READ rights, no ? Am I missing something here ?

What David is saying is that for e.g. stat(), you can get metadata when you
don't even have read permission for a device, since stat() takes a pathname.

An ioctl requires you to first do an open(), which will will check permissions,
so implementing the same is not really possible for an ioctl like BLKREPORTZONE.

However, I think the current ioctl is fine.
The amount of data that is transferred from a zoned block device for the zone
report is more than the data that is transferred when someone does a stat(),
so in one way getting the zone report is more like a read.

Doing what David suggests would, as far as I can tell, require another solution
than the existing ioctl method, which this patch changes.

We can think about his suggestion, but it would need to be addressed is a
separate patch series. (If his suggestion is something that we want to pursue.)


Kind regards,
Niklas

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-03 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-31 13:54 [PATCH 0/2] allow blk-zoned ioctls " Niklas Cassel
2021-05-31 13:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] blk-zoned: allow zone management send operations " Niklas Cassel
2021-05-31 13:54 ` [PATCH 2/2] blk-zoned: allow BLKREPORTZONE " Niklas Cassel
2021-06-03  9:51   ` David Sterba
2021-06-03 10:00     ` Damien Le Moal
2021-06-03 10:04       ` David Sterba
2021-06-03 11:20         ` Damien Le Moal
2021-06-03 11:59           ` Niklas Cassel [this message]
2021-06-03 14:44           ` David Sterba

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=YLjEOMaxk8/8GOex@x1-carbon \
    --to=niklas.cassel@wdc.com \
    --cc=Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com \
    --cc=axboe@kernel.dk \
    --cc=dsterba@suse.cz \
    --cc=linux-block@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®