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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Vineeth Pillai <vineethrp@gmail.com>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/core: forced idle accounting
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:27:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YWV/HNDJaIAOLdrt@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABk29Nu6F4__ryF5p0En--Ze6CCev1Jy81W=LkTYaacf-YLkFg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 05:12:43PM -0700, Josh Don wrote:

> > > +             if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!nr_running)) {
> > > +                     /* can't be forced idle without a running task */
> > > +             } else {
> > > +                     delta *= nr_forced_idle;
> > > +                     delta /= nr_running;
> > > +             }
> >
> > Now the comment sayeth:
> >
> > > +     /*
> > > +      * For larger SMT configurations, we need to scale the charged
> > > +      * forced idle amount since there can be more than one forced idle
> > > +      * sibling and more than one running cookied task.
> > > +      */
> >
> > But why?
> 
> We scale by the number of cpus actually forced idle, since we don't
> want to falsely over or under charge forced idle time (defined
> strictly as time where we have a runnable task but idle the cpu). The
> more important scaling here though is the division over the number of
> running entities. This is done so that the aggregate amount of forced
> idle over some group of threads makes sense. Ie if we have a cpu with
> SMT8, and a group of 7 threads sharing a cookie, we don't want to
> accrue 7 units of forced idle time per unit time while the 8th SMT is
> forced idle.

So why not simply compute the strict per-cpu force-idle time and let
userspace sort out the rest?


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-12 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-08  0:08 Josh Don
2021-10-08 21:04 ` Josh Don
2021-10-09 15:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-12  0:12   ` Josh Don
2021-10-12 12:27     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-10-12 19:45       ` Josh Don
2021-10-14 14:24         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-14 23:18           ` Josh Don
2021-10-09 18:11 ` Tao Zhou
2021-10-12  0:14   ` Josh Don
2021-10-11 17:33 ` Hao Luo
2021-10-12  0:31   ` Josh Don
2021-10-14 17:57     ` Hao Luo
2021-10-14 23:29       ` Josh Don
2021-10-14 23:58         ` Hao Luo

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