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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
Cc: Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Sven Schnelle <svens@stackframe.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
	Claudio Suarez <cssk@net-c.es>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Revert "fbcon: Disable accelerated scrolling"
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 16:58:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ye7MnI7v7hK5GXQW@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <de6e06e1-f293-1c98-7898-b5d52c400b59@gmx.de>

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 04:29:34PM +0100, Helge Deller wrote:
> On 1/24/22 12:50, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> > On 1/24/22 12:33, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> I can't say I approve keeping fbdev alive, but...
> >>
> >> With fbdev emulation, every DRM driver is an fbdev driver too. So
> >> CONFIG_FB_DRIVER is somewhat misleading. Better add an option like
> >> CONFIG_FBCON_HW_SCROLLING and have it selected by the fbdev drivers that
> >> absolutely need HW acceleration. That option would then protect the rsp
> >> code.
> 
> I'm not a fan of something like CONFIG_FBCON_HW_SCROLLING, but I'm not
> against it either.
> For me it sounds that this is not the real direction you want to go,
> which is to prevent that any other drivers take the framebuffer before
> you take it with simpledrm or similiar.
> CONFIG_FBCON_HW_SCROLLING IMHO just disables the (from your POV) neglectable accleration part.
> With an option like CONFIG_FB_DRIVER (maybe better: CONFIG_FB_LEGACY_DRIVERS)
> it's an easy option for distros to disable all of the legacy drivers
> from being built & shipped.
> 
> Instead of CONFIG_FBCON_HW_SCROLLING we could also choose
> CONFIG_FBCON_LEGACY_ACCELERATION, because it includes fillrect() as well...

+1 on that name, since on the lwn discussions I've also seen some noise
about resurrecting scrollback. And I guess we could do that too and then
just add it all behind that same option.
-Daniel

> > Agreed that this option would be better and allow distros
> > to disable the code that was reverted.
> 
> Yes, but IMHO it doesn't hurt either to leave it in.
> It doesn't break anything at least.
> Anyway...
> 
> Helge

-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-24 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-19 11:08 [PATCH 0/2] Fix regression introduced by disabling accelerated scrolling in fbcon Helge Deller
2022-01-19 11:08 ` [PATCH 1/2] Revert "fbdev: Garbage collect fbdev scrolling acceleration, part 1 (from TODO list)" Helge Deller
2022-01-19 11:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] Revert "fbcon: Disable accelerated scrolling" Helge Deller
2022-01-19 11:22   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-19 11:28     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-19 11:47       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-19 12:28         ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 14:01           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-19 14:11             ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 14:34             ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-19 15:05               ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-19 15:37                 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-19 16:55                   ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 15:42                 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-19 15:54                   ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 16:13                     ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-19 16:31                       ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-19 15:18               ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 13:01       ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-19 13:35         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-20 14:30   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-20 17:01     ` Helge Deller
2022-01-21  7:20       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-24 11:10         ` Helge Deller
2022-01-24 11:28           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-24 11:33           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-24 11:50             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-24 15:29               ` Helge Deller
2022-01-24 15:45                 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-24 15:50                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 15:58                 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2022-01-24 15:50             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 16:11               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-19 12:45 ` [PATCH 0/2] Fix regression introduced by disabling accelerated scrolling in fbcon Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-19 13:02 ` Sven Schnelle

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