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From: Gabriel Paubert <paubert@iram.es>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc/32: Clear volatile regs on syscall exit
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 09:29:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YhdCAwQ+VfLTslnV@lt-gp.iram.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220223232739.GJ614@gate.crashing.org>

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 05:27:39PM -0600, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 09:48:09PM +0100, Gabriel Paubert wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 06:11:36PM +0100, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> > > +	/* Zero volatile regs that may contain sensitive kernel data */
> > > +	li	r0,0
> > > +	li	r4,0
> > > +	li	r5,0
> > > +	li	r6,0
> > > +	li	r7,0
> > > +	li	r8,0
> > > +	li	r9,0
> > > +	li	r10,0
> > > +	li	r11,0
> > > +	li	r12,0
> > > +	mtctr	r0
> > > +	mtxer	r0
> > 
> > Here, I'm almost sure that on some processors, it would be better to
> > separate mtctr form mtxer. mtxer is typically very expensive (pipeline
> > flush) but I don't know what's the best ordering for the average core.
> 
> mtxer is cheaper than mtctr on many cores :-)

We're speaking of 32 bit here I believe; on my (admittedly old) paper
copy of PowerPC 604 user's manual, I read in a footnote:

"The mtspr (XER) instruction causes instructions to be flushed when it
executes." 

Also a paragraph about "PostDispatch Serialization Mode" which reads:
"All instructions following the postdispatch serialization instruction
are flushed, refetched, and reexecuted."

Then it goes on to list the affected instructions which starts with:
mtsper(xer), mcrxr, isync, ...

I know there are probably very few 604 left in the field, but in this
case mtspr(xer) looks very much like a superset of isync.

I also just had a look at the documentation of a more widespread core:

https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/reference-manual/MPC7450UM.pdf

and mtspr(xer) is marked as execution and refetch serialized, actually
it is the only instruction to have both.

Maybe there is a subtle difference between "refetch serialization" and
"pipeline flush", but in this case please educate me.

Besides that the back to back mtctr/mtspr(xer) may limit instruction
decoding and issuing bandwidth.  I'd rather move one of them up by a few
lines since they can only go to one of the execution units on some
(or even most?) cores. This was my main point initially.

	Gabriel

> 
> On p9 mtxer is cracked into two latency 3 ops (which run in parallel).
> While mtctr has latency 5.
> 
> On p8 mtxer was horrible indeed (but nothing near as bad as a pipeline
> flush).
> 
> 
> Segher
 


  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-24  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-23 17:11 Christophe Leroy
2022-02-23 19:34 ` Kees Cook
2022-02-24  7:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2022-02-23 20:48 ` Gabriel Paubert
2022-02-23 23:27   ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-02-24  8:29     ` Gabriel Paubert [this message]
2022-02-24 12:49       ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-02-24  6:41   ` Christophe Leroy

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