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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Guenter Roeck <groeck@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/core: Fix forceidle balancing
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 13:46:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YkbmCr6ojXYiWzkP@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEXW_YQNi42gahbSJ1skadh_8D+Ry6ZOmMqSU5BdidfCbmOtRg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 03:00:40PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> By the way, might be slightly related - we still see crashes with
> pick_task_fair() in our kernel even with this change:
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/11/17/2137

Please as to not use lkml.org. Please use something with a MsgID in like
lore.

> Is it possible that when doing pick_task_fair() especially on a remote
> CPU, both the "cfs_rq->curr" and the rbtree's "left" be NULL with core
> scheduling? In this case, se will be NULL and can cause crashes right?
> I think the code assumes this can never happen.
> 
> +Guenter Roeck  kindly debugged pick_task_fair() in a crash as
> follows. Copying some details he mentioned in a bug report:
> 
> Assembler/source:
> 
>   25:   e8 4f 11 00 00          call   0x1179             ; se =
> pick_next_entity(cfs_rq, curr);
>   2a:*  48 8b 98 60 01 00 00    mov    0x160(%rax),%rbx   ; trapping
> instruction [cfs_rq = group_cfs_rq(se);]
>   31:   48 85 db                test   %rbx,%rbx
>   34:   75 d1                   jne    0x7
>   36:   48 89 c7                mov    %rax,%rdi
> 
> At 2a: RAX = se == NULL after pick_next_entity(). Looking closely into
> pick_next_entity(), it can indeed return NULL if curr is NULL and if
> left in pick_next_entity() is NULL. Per line 7:, curr is in %r14 and
> indeed 0.
> 
> Thoughts?

It is possible for ->curr and ->leftmost to be NULL, but then we should
also be having ->nr_running == 0 and not call pick in the first place.
Because picking a task from no tasks doesn't make much sense.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-01 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-30 16:05 Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-30 16:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-31 19:00 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-04-01 11:46   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-04-05 19:25     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-04-01 11:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-05  8:22 ` [tip: sched/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra

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