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From: "Wu X.C." <bobwxc@email.cn>
To: Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@gmail.com>
Cc: WANG Xuerui <kernel@xen0n.name>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-doc <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yanteng Si <siyanteng@loongson.cn>, Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>,
	Alex Shi <alexs@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V10 02/22] Documentation/zh_CN: Add basic LoongArch documentations
Date: Sun, 15 May 2022 22:14:59 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YoB7c6k1i6/lAh/X@bobwxc.top> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAhV-H70qwXEWfejPjaPtbrMUA7wCMWkJueMMYPAeQxF46gJvw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:49:19PM +0800, Huacai Chen wrote:
> Hi, Xuerui.
> 
> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 9:26 PM WANG Xuerui <kernel@xen0n.name> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 5/14/22 16:03, Huacai Chen wrote:
> > > Add some basic documentation (zh_CN version) for LoongArch. LoongArch is
> > > a new RISC ISA, which is a bit like MIPS or RISC-V. LoongArch includes a
> > > reduced 32-bit version (LA32R), a standard 32-bit version (LA32S) and a
> > > 64-bit version (LA64).
> > >
> > > Reviewed-by: Alex Shi <alexs@kernel.org>
> > > Reviewed-by: Yanteng Si <siyanteng@loongson.cn>
> > > Signed-off-by: Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn>
> > > ---
> > >   Documentation/translations/zh_CN/index.rst    |   1 +
> > >   .../translations/zh_CN/loongarch/features.rst |   8 +
> > >   .../translations/zh_CN/loongarch/index.rst    |  26 ++
> > >   .../zh_CN/loongarch/introduction.rst          | 326 ++++++++++++++++++
> > >   .../zh_CN/loongarch/irq-chip-model.rst        | 167 +++++++++
> > >   5 files changed, 528 insertions(+)
> > >   create mode 100644 Documentation/translations/zh_CN/loongarch/features.rst
> > >   create mode 100644 Documentation/translations/zh_CN/loongarch/index.rst
> > >   create mode 100644 Documentation/translations/zh_CN/loongarch/introduction.rst
> > >   create mode 100644 Documentation/translations/zh_CN/loongarch/irq-chip-model.rst
> > >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/translations/zh_CN/index.rst b/Documentation/translations/zh_CN/index.rst
> > > index 88d8df957a78..41c59950523c 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/translations/zh_CN/index.rst
> > > +++ b/Documentation/translations/zh_CN/index.rst
> > > @@ -171,6 +171,7 @@ TODOList:
> > >      riscv/index
> > >      openrisc/index
> > >      parisc/index
> > > +   loongarch/index
> > >
> > >   TODOList:
> > >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/translations/zh_CN/loongarch/features.rst b/Documentation/translations/zh_CN/loongarch/features.rst
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..3886e635ec06
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/Documentation/translations/zh_CN/loongarch/features.rst
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@
> > > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > > +
> > > +.. include:: ../disclaimer-zh_CN.rst
> > > +
> > > +:Original: Documentation/loongarch/features.rst
> > > +:Translator: Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn>
> >
> > Actually, here's an interesting situation:
> >
> > Every LoongArch (or Loongson) developer is native speaker of Chinese,
> > not English, so most likely the "original" version of the various
> > LoongArch documentation is actually the *Chinese* one, i.e. those added
> > in this commit. As one can see, the English version has many unnatural
> > expression recognizable even by a Chinese speaker (such as myself). I've
> > seen worse translations (not necessarily in this patch series), broken
> > to the point that even Chinese speakers with an adequate understanding
> > of English (again, such as myself) *cannot* mentally map back into
> > Chinese. (Usually such broken English are in fact perfect Chinese
> > expression if mapped back word-for-word).
> >
> > So, how do we handle situation like this for the kernel documentation?
> > Do we keep the English version as the "original" or "authoritative"
> > version, even though they may be inaccurate compared to the
> > "translation", or do we just switch a bit and move this "original" and
> > "translator" information to the English version instead?
> I think the Chinese version is the original one, and the English
> version is translation.

As Documentation/translations/index.rst said:

 but please bear in mind that the *only* official documentation is the 
 English one

So, whatever the original language is, you need to keep the correct of
English version. Even the English version is a translation, it is still
the official documentation. It seems impossible to mark a official
version as "translation". But we can remove the translation tag in
Chinese version and add a note to explain why.

Also, that means Loongson need to keep the synchronization of
documentation. Updating the "official" document when the "original"
document is updated ;)

Thanks,
Wu

> 
[...]


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-15 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-14  8:03 [PATCH V10 00/22] arch: Add basic LoongArch support Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 01/22] Documentation: LoongArch: Add basic documentations Huacai Chen
2022-05-14 13:11   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-14 15:40     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-15 12:41   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-05-15 13:14     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 02/22] Documentation/zh_CN: Add basic LoongArch documentations Huacai Chen
2022-05-14 13:26   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-14 14:49     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-15 14:14       ` Wu X.C. [this message]
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V3 03/22] LoongArch: Add elf-related definitions Huacai Chen
2022-05-14 13:29   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-14 14:11     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-15  4:13       ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-15 11:47         ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 04/22] LoongArch: Add writecombine support for drm Huacai Chen
2022-05-15  4:18   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-15 11:50     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 05/22] LoongArch: Add build infrastructure Huacai Chen
2022-05-14 13:38   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 06/22] LoongArch: Add CPU definition headers Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 07/22] LoongArch: Add atomic/locking headers Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 08/22] LoongArch: Add other common headers Huacai Chen
2022-05-15  0:01   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-15 11:42     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 09/22] LoongArch: Add boot and setup routines Huacai Chen
2022-05-15  8:44   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-15 12:38     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-16  2:41       ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 10/22] LoongArch: Add exception/interrupt handling Huacai Chen
2022-05-15  9:07   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-15 13:00     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 11/22] LoongArch: Add process management Huacai Chen
2022-05-15  9:20   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-15 13:25     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 12/22] LoongArch: Add memory management Huacai Chen
2022-05-15  9:42   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-15 13:38     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 13/22] LoongArch: Add system call support Huacai Chen
2022-05-14 13:53   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-14 14:39     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-15  9:47       ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 14/22] LoongArch: Add signal handling support Huacai Chen
2022-05-15 10:39   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-15 13:48     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-16  3:51       ` WANG Xuerui
     [not found]         ` <87bkvxd12b.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>
2022-05-16 15:02           ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-17  2:08           ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-17 15:36             ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 15/22] LoongArch: Add ELF and module support Huacai Chen
2022-05-15 11:03   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-15 14:13     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 16/22] LoongArch: Add misc common routines Huacai Chen
2022-05-14 12:56   ` Alexandre Belloni
2022-05-14 14:12     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14 16:00       ` Alexandre Belloni
2022-05-15 13:03   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-15 14:21     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 17/22] LoongArch: Add some library functions Huacai Chen
2022-05-15 13:11   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-15 14:27     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 18/22] LoongArch: Add PCI controller support Huacai Chen
2022-05-15 13:35   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-14  8:03 ` [PATCH V10 19/22] LoongArch: Add VDSO and VSYSCALL support Huacai Chen
2022-05-15 14:47   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-15 14:52     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:04 ` [PATCH V10 20/22] LoongArch: Add multi-processor (SMP) support Huacai Chen
2022-05-15 14:16   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-15 14:47     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:04 ` [PATCH V10 21/22] LoongArch: Add Non-Uniform Memory Access (NUMA) support Huacai Chen
2022-05-15 14:27   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-15 14:49     ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-14  8:04 ` [PATCH V10 22/22] LoongArch: Add Loongson-3 default config file Huacai Chen
2022-05-15 14:30   ` WANG Xuerui
2022-05-14 20:54 ` [PATCH V10 00/22] arch: Add basic LoongArch support Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-16  7:41   ` Huacai Chen
2022-05-15 15:09 ` WANG Xuerui

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