From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7906BC433EF for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 16:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231261AbiF2QZu (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Jun 2022 12:25:50 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:38346 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229760AbiF2QZs (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Jun 2022 12:25:48 -0400 Received: from sin.source.kernel.org (sin.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:40e1:4800::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F03E313BA; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 09:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sin.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3794CE2819; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 16:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9C294C34114; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 16:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=zx2c4.com header.i=@zx2c4.com header.b="pcAWGf38" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zx2c4.com; s=20210105; t=1656519940; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=68juHfv4ygcIaahoO6PbfPTLidvNwti4IiRxQ+0kt6w=; b=pcAWGf38OzIMgyPi4OUE3lxDPN67fDsAwjtmVY65jBcFJHVgSvrOJLrXxTDJgzjglyzQ1u 2CSO9+yCjfBazL0tv1CtSmUtDTr4aCsE3ZzVZ02CULsAB0CdMri+FLuqwPNnCRQgJS+/oB YOKOC2ccbkhGrCi051exLIABSKZ8eyM= Received: by mail.zx2c4.com (ZX2C4 Mail Server) with ESMTPSA id 1fb02a60 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 29 Jun 2022 16:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 18:25:32 +0200 From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Arve =?utf-8?B?SGrDuG5uZXbDpWc=?= , Todd Kjos , Martijn Coenen , Joel Fernandes , Christian Brauner , Hridya Valsaraju , Suren Baghdasaryan , Theodore Ts'o , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , "Alex Xu (Hello71)" , Paolo Abeni , Rob Herring , "Paul E. McKenney" , Frederic Weisbecker , Neeraj Upadhyay , Josh Triplett , Steven Rostedt , Mathieu Desnoyers , Lai Jiangshan , Shuah Khan , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] remove CONFIG_ANDROID Message-ID: References: <20220629150102.1582425-1-hch@lst.de> <20220629150102.1582425-2-hch@lst.de> <20220629161020.GA24891@lst.de> <20220629161527.GA24978@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20220629161527.GA24978@lst.de> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 06:15:27PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 06:13:05PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > > Good! It sounds like you're starting to develop opinions on the matter. > > No, I provide facts. Lol. > Look at both the definition of the symbol, and > various distribution kernel that enabled it and think hard if they run > on "Android" hardware. Not just primarily, but at all. There are two failure modes: 1) Key clearing code is skipped when it shouldn't be. 2) Key clearing code is run when it shouldn't be. You've identified (well, Alex in the other thread I think?) a case of (1). I was sort of thinking the fix to that would be that distros shouldn't enable that option, but it doesn't really matter to me. However, what I'm pointing out is the potential for (2). A (2)-style regression means that WireGuard basically doesn't work, because, for example, qcacld's packet-triggered wakeups tend to be too short to renegotiate a handshake. Anyway, instead of the slow drip of "facts" and ≤three sentence emails, can you just write up a paragraph that indicates this is safe to do (for both (1) and (2)) in your v+1? I don't really want to argue about it, because I don't have anything to argue about. Your change is probably fine. I'd just like it to be spelled out why this is safe to do from somebody who has looked into it. I have not looked into it, but it sounds like you have or are in the process of doing so. Just write down what you find, please. Jason