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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Daniil Lunev <dlunev@chromium.org>
Cc: Zdenek Kabelac <zdenek.kabelac@gmail.com>,
	Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 1/1] dm: add message command to disallow device open
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 21:23:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yun4LH+StcuBXRtO@sol.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAONX=-ft=ewFDui4jmd2fvcNr2EJc90=ZNOueDdp6HaPZmvObQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 02:12:26PM +1000, Daniil Lunev wrote:
> Hello all
> To signal boost here. What can we do to advance the discussion on this
> topic? Can we move forward with the approach or are there any
> alternative suggestions how the desired behaviour can be achieved?
> Thanks,
> --Daniil
> 
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 9:42 AM Daniil Lunev <dlunev@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > We understand that if someone acquires root it is a game over. The intent of
> > this mechanism is to reduce the attack surface. The exposure might be a
> > certain system daemon that is exploited into accessing a wrong node in
> > the filesystem. And exposing modifiable system memory is a pathway for
> > further escalation and leaks of secrets. This is a defense in depth mechanism,
> > that is intended to make attackers' lives harder even if they find an
> > exploitable
> > vulnerability.
> > We understand that in regular situations people may not want the behaviour,
> > that is why the mechanism is controlled via a side channel - if a message is
> > never sent - the behaviour is not altered.
> > --Daniil

This seems like an access control policy, which the Linux kernel already has a
lot of mechanisms for.  Chrome OS already uses SELinux.  Couldn't this be solved
by giving the device node an SELinux label that no one has permission to open?

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-03  4:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-04  0:02 [PATCH 0/1] Signal to disallow open of a dm device Daniil Lunev
2022-07-04  0:02 ` [PATCH 1/1] dm: add message command to disallow device open Daniil Lunev
2022-07-14 20:13   ` Mike Snitzer
2022-07-14 23:42     ` Daniil Lunev
2022-07-15  9:36       ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-15 19:38         ` Zdenek Kabelac
2022-07-18 23:42           ` Daniil Lunev
2022-08-03  4:12             ` Daniil Lunev
2022-08-03  4:23               ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2022-08-03  4:29                 ` Daniil Lunev
2022-08-03 16:30                   ` Mike Snitzer
2022-08-03 20:49                     ` Daniil Lunev
2022-08-03 18:25                   ` [dm-devel] " Eric Biggers
2022-08-03 20:44                     ` Daniil Lunev
2022-08-03 21:49                       ` Eric Biggers
2022-08-03 23:38                         ` Daniil Lunev

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