From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
LKML Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
X86-kernel <x86@kernel.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/microcode/intel: Allow a late-load only if a min rev is specified
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 09:46:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yvn5vBRNz9z8Y4A9@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220813223825.3164861-4-ashok.raj@intel.com>
On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 10:38:23PM +0000, Ashok Raj wrote:
> The proposal here is an even simpler option. The criteria for a microcode to
> be a viable late-load candidate is that no CPUID or OS visible MSR features
> are removed with respect to an earlier version of the microcode.
>
> Pseudocode for late-load is as follows:
>
> if header.min_required_id == 0
> This is old format microcode, block late-load
> else if current_ucode_version < header.min_required_id
> Current version is too old, block late-load of this microcode.
> else
> OK to proceed with late-load.
>
> Any microcode that removes a feature will set the min_version to itself.
> This will enforce this microcode is not suitable for late-loading.
>
> The enforcement is not in hardware and limited to kernel loader enforcing
> the requirement. It is not required for early loading of microcode to
> enforce this requirement, since the new features are only
> evaluated after early loading in the boot process.
>
>
> Test cases covered:
>
> 1. With new kernel, attempting to load an older format microcode with the
> min_rev=0 should be blocked by kernel.
>
> [ 210.541802] microcode: Header MUST specify min version for late-load
>
> 2. New microcode with a non-zero min_rev in the header, but the specified
> min_rev is greater than what is currently loaded in the CPU should be
> blocked by kernel.
>
> 245.139828] microcode: Current revision 0x8f685300 is too old to update,
> must be at 0xaa000050 version or higher
>
> 3. New microcode with a min_rev < currently loaded should allow loading the
> microcode
>
> 4. Build initrd with microcode that has min_rev=0, or min_rev > currently
> loaded should permit early loading microcode from initrd.
What if any validation do you have to ensure min_rev does as promised?
That is, ucode can very easily lie about the number and still remove an
MSR or CPUID enumerated feature.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-15 7:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-13 22:38 [PATCH 0/5] Adding more robustness to microcode loading Ashok Raj
2022-08-13 22:38 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86/microcode: Add missing documentation that late-load will taint kernel Ashok Raj
2022-08-15 19:40 ` [tip: x86/microcode] x86/microcode: Document the whole late loading problem tip-bot2 for Ashok Raj
2022-08-16 3:21 ` Ashok Raj
2022-08-16 7:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-16 6:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2022-08-16 7:46 ` tip-bot2 for Ashok Raj
2022-08-18 14:04 ` tip-bot2 for Ashok Raj
2022-08-13 22:38 ` [PATCH 2/5] x86/microcode/intel: Check against CPU signature before saving microcode Ashok Raj
2022-08-13 22:38 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86/microcode/intel: Allow a late-load only if a min rev is specified Ashok Raj
2022-08-15 7:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-15 12:29 ` Ashok Raj
2022-08-15 7:46 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-08-15 12:41 ` Ashok Raj
2022-08-15 13:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-18 17:34 ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-13 22:38 ` [PATCH 4/5] x86/microcode: Avoid any chance of MCE's during microcode update Ashok Raj
2022-08-13 22:38 ` [PATCH 5/5] x86/microcode: Handle NMI's " Ashok Raj
2022-08-14 0:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-08-14 1:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-08-14 3:05 ` Ashok Raj
2022-08-14 2:54 ` Ashok Raj
2022-08-14 11:58 ` Andrew Cooper
2022-08-14 14:41 ` Ashok Raj
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