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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	parri.andrea@gmail.com, will@kernel.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
	npiggin@gmail.com, dhowells@redhat.com, j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk,
	luc.maranget@inria.fr, akiyks@gmail.com, dlustig@nvidia.com,
	joel@joelfernandes.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: "Verifying and Optimizing Compact NUMA-Aware Locks on Weak Memory Models"
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2022 01:47:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YwlbpPHzp8tj0Gn0@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ywj+j2kC+5xb6DmO@rowland.harvard.edu>

On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 01:10:39PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:

> >  - some babbling about a missing propagation -- ISTR Linux if stuffed
> >    full of them, specifically we require stores to auto propagate
> >    without help from barriers
> 
> Not a missing propagation; a late one.
> 
> Don't understand what you mean by "auto propagate without help from 
> barriers".

Linux hard relies on:

	CPU0				CPU1

	WRITE_ONCE(foo, 1);		while (!READ_ONCE(foo));

making forward progress.

There were a few 'funny' uarchs that were broken, see for example commit
a30718868915f.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-26 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-26 12:48 Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-26 16:21 ` Boqun Feng
2022-08-26 16:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-26 17:10   ` Alan Stern
2022-08-26 20:42     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-27 16:00       ` Alan Stern
2022-08-27 17:04         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-13 11:24       ` Will Deacon
2022-09-13 12:21         ` Dan Lustig
2022-09-16  8:18           ` Will Deacon
2022-08-26 23:47     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-08-27 16:05       ` Alan Stern
2022-08-27 16:44         ` Boqun Feng
2022-08-29  2:15           ` Andrea Parri
2022-09-09 11:45           ` Jonas Oberhauser
2022-09-10 12:11             ` Hernan Luis Ponce de Leon
2022-09-10 15:03               ` Alan Stern
2022-09-10 20:41                 ` Hernan Luis Ponce de Leon
2022-09-11 10:20                   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-12 10:13                     ` Jonas Oberhauser
2022-09-12 11:10                       ` Hernan Luis Ponce de Leon
2022-09-14 14:41                         ` Alan Stern
2022-09-12 12:01                       ` Alan Stern
2022-09-11 14:53                   ` Andrea Parri
2022-09-12 10:46                 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2022-09-12 12:02                   ` Alan Stern
2022-08-29  2:33 ` Andrea Parri
2022-08-29 12:25   ` Paul E. McKenney

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