From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
isaku.yamahata@gmail.com, kai.huang@intel.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com,
xiaoyao.li@intel.com, yan.y.zhao@intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
adrian.hunter@intel.com,
Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
Yuan Yao <yuan.yao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/6] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers for TDX KeyID management
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:55:14 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0EZ4gt2J8hVJz4x@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30d0cef5-82d5-4325-b149-0e99833b8785@intel.com>
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 11/15/24 12:20, Rick Edgecombe wrote:
> > +struct tdx_td {
> > + hpa_t tdr;
> > + hpa_t *tdcs;
> > +};
>
> This is a step in the right direction because it gives the wrappers some
> more type safety.
>
> But an hpa_t is _barely_ better than a u64. If the 'tdr' is a page,
> then it needs to be _stored_ as a page:
>
> struct page *tdr_page;
>
> Also, please don't forget to spell these things out:
>
> /* TD root structure: */
> struct page *tdr_page;
>
> And the tdcs is an array of pages, right? So it should be:
>
> struct page **tdcs_pages;
>
> Or heck, I _think_ it can theoretically be defined as a variable-length
> array:
>
> struct page *tdcs_pages[];
>
> and use the helpers that we have for that.
>
> Putting it all together, you would have this:
>
> struct tdx_td {
> /* TD root structure: */
> struct page *tdr_page;
>
> int tdcs_nr_pages;
> /* TD control structure: */
> struct page *tdcs_pages[];
> };
>
> That's *MUCH* harder to misuse. It's 100% obvious that you have a
> single page, plus a variable-length array of pages. This is all from
> just looking at the structure definition.
I don't know the full context, but working with "struct page" is a pain when every
user just wants the physical address. KVM SVM had a few cases where pointers were
tracked as "struct page", and it was generally unpleasant to read and work with.
I also don't like conflating the kernel's "struct page" with the architecture's
definition of a 4KiB page.
> You know that 'tdr' is not just some random physical address. It's a
> whole physical page. It's page-aligned. It was allocated, from the
> allocator. It doesn't point to special memory.
Oh, but it does point to special memory. If it *didn't* point at special memory
that is completely opaque and untouchable, then KVM could use a struct overlay,
which would give contextual information and some amount of type safety. E.g.
an equivalent without TDX is "struct vmcs *".
Rather than "struct page", what if we add an address_space (in the Sparse sense),
and a typedef for a TDX pages? Maybe __firmware? E.g.
# define __firmware __attribute__((noderef, address_space(__firmware)))
typedef u64 __firmware *tdx_page_t;
That doesn't give as much compile-time safety, but in some ways it provides more
type safety since KVM (or whatever else cares) would need to make an explicit and
ugly cast to misuse the pointer.
> Ditto for "hpa_t *tdcs". It's not obvious from the data structure that
> it's an array or if it's an array how it got allocated or how large it is.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-22 23:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-15 20:20 [RFC PATCH 0/6] SEAMCALL Wrappers Rick Edgecombe
2024-11-15 20:20 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers for TDX KeyID management Rick Edgecombe
2024-11-22 18:04 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-22 23:55 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-11-22 23:59 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-23 0:08 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-23 2:06 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-27 18:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-11-27 23:04 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-25 15:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-25 15:46 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-15 20:20 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers for TDX TD creation Rick Edgecombe
2024-11-15 20:20 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers for TDX vCPU creation Rick Edgecombe
2024-11-15 20:20 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers for TDX page cache management Rick Edgecombe
2024-11-15 20:20 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers for TDX VM/vCPU field access Rick Edgecombe
2024-11-15 20:20 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers for TDX flush operations Rick Edgecombe
2024-12-24 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] SEAMCALL Wrappers Paolo Bonzini
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