From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>,
Tommaso Cucinotta <tommaso.cucinotta@santannapisa.it>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Vineeth Pillai <vineeth@bitbyteword.org>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>,
Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V7 9/9] sched/rt: Remove default bandwidth control
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 15:44:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0nTZXHDggHD8raj@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tjsas6vkv3xegcgmranxmnkrt46xuitp553caz6vvtgpfrbwl3@252nbydvxaqt>
On 29/11/24 11:02, Michal Koutný wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 04:35:39PM GMT, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > The default DL bandwidth is thus is 95%. The fair server is given 5%.
> > > Is that 5% of those 95%?
> >
> > Yes, it is indeed.
>
> Thanks for navigating me. I have followup questions about
> /proc/sys/kernel/sched_rt_runtime_us / /proc/sys/kernel/sched_rt_period_us
> (a ratio, without CONGIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED)
>
> - 0
> - disables DL, (not RT, so they can monopolize a CPU)
> - 1
> - DL tasks can monopolize CPU, SCHED_NORMAL have 5% thanks to
> fair_server
> - 1-Δ
> - SCHED_NORMAL tasks have
> - (1-Δ)*5% on behalf of DL (above RT)
> - Δ regularly (below RT)
>
> Is this breakdown correct?
So, sched_rt_runtime_us/sched_rt_period_us only applies to admission
control (for DEADLINE tasks, including dl_servers). The actual
parameters controlling the dl_server for SCHED_NORMAL are under sched/
debug as per-cpu values, e.g.:
# grep . /sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu*/*
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu0/period:1000000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu0/runtime:50000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu1/period:1000000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu1/runtime:50000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu2/period:1000000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu2/runtime:50000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu3/period:1000000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu3/runtime:50000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu4/period:1000000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu4/runtime:50000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu5/period:1000000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu5/runtime:50000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu6/period:1000000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu6/runtime:50000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu7/period:1000000000
/sys/kernel/debug/sched/fair_server/cpu7/runtime:50000000
You can disable admission control by echoing -1 in sched_rt_runtime_us,
but still have the dl_server working for SCHED_NORMAL tasks. By
disabling admission control SCHED_DEADLINE can indeed monopolize CPU
(over subscription).
Best,
Juri
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-29 14:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-27 12:06 [PATCH V7 0/9] SCHED_DEADLINE server infrastructure Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-05-27 12:06 ` [PATCH V7 1/9] sched/deadline: Comment sched_dl_entity::dl_server variable Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-07-29 10:34 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-05-27 12:06 ` [PATCH V7 2/9] sched/core: Add clearing of ->dl_server in put_prev_task_balance() Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-07-29 10:34 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Joel Fernandes (Google)
2024-05-27 12:06 ` [PATCH V7 3/9] sched/core: Clear prev->dl_server in CFS pick fast path Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-07-29 10:34 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Youssef Esmat
2024-05-27 12:06 ` [PATCH V7 4/9] sched/fair: Add trivial fair server Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-07-29 10:34 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-27 12:06 ` [PATCH V7 5/9] sched/deadline: Deferrable dl server Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-07-29 10:34 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-05-27 12:06 ` [PATCH V7 6/9] sched/fair: Fair server interface Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-07-29 10:34 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-05-27 12:06 ` [PATCH V7 7/9] sched/core: Fix priority checking for DL server picks Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-07-29 10:34 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Joel Fernandes (Google)
2024-05-27 12:06 ` [PATCH V7 8/9] sched/core: Fix picking of tasks for core scheduling with DL server Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-07-29 10:34 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Joel Fernandes (Google)
2024-05-27 12:06 ` [PATCH V7 9/9] sched/rt: Remove default bandwidth control Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-07-29 10:34 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-27 10:55 ` [PATCH V7 9/9] " Michal Koutný
2024-11-27 15:35 ` Juri Lelli
2024-11-29 10:02 ` Michal Koutný
2024-11-29 14:44 ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2024-11-29 20:21 ` Michal Koutný
2024-12-02 9:39 ` Juri Lelli
2024-06-21 13:37 ` [PATCH V7 0/9] SCHED_DEADLINE server infrastructure Juri Lelli
2024-06-21 13:43 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-06-21 13:50 ` Juri Lelli
2024-06-21 14:41 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2024-06-21 14:59 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-06-21 15:09 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2024-06-21 15:16 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2024-07-29 10:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-29 20:42 ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
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