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From: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Adam Williamson <awilliam@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jforbes@redhat.com, rppt@kernel.org
Subject: Re: Kernel crash while doing chroot'ed grub2-mkconfig on qemu-emulated Nehalem CPU since late November 6.13 snapshot
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 17:51:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z3iUBbvKPdW80yMs@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab8c63b1d722f68f22b1b9449a40406f6a2bcff2.camel@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 12:16:03PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2024-12-11 at 08:51 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Hi, folks. Please CC me on replies, I'm not subscribed to the list. The
> > downstream bug report for this is
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2329581 . I also filed
> > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219554 but it looks like
> > nobody is monitoring that ATM, hence this email. Sorry, I don't know
> > where to send it that would be more targeted.
> > 
> > I maintain Fedora's openQA instance - https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/
> > (openQA is an automated testing system which runs jobs on qemu VMs,
> > inputting keyboard and mouse events via VNC, and monitoring results via
> > screenshots and the serial console).
> > 
> > In openQA testing we've noticed a lot of failures of install tests
> > since kernel-6.13.0-0.rc0.20241125git9f16d5e6f220.8.fc42 landed in
> > Rawhide - that is, a snapshot of upstream git 9f16d5e6f220 . The
> > previous build, kernel-6.13.0-0.rc0.20241119git158f238aa69d.2.fc42 - a
> > snapshot of upstream 158f238aa69d - did not show this problem. The
> > problems persist with the latest kernel build, kernel-6.13.0-
> > 0.rc2.22.fc42 (a build of 6.13 rc2 exactly).
> > 
> > Both BIOS and UEFI x86_64 installs are frequently hitting kernel
> > crashes when the Fedora installer runs grub2-mkconfig as part of the
> > install process. In the BIOS case, this causes the system to hang
> > permanently. In the UEFI case, the system hangs for a while then
> > reboots, and fails to boot properly as the installation did not
> > complete.
> > 
> > I've reproduced both BIOS and UEFI failures locally with a qemu VM
> > configured like the one we use in the affected tests: 2 vCPUs, 4G RAM,
> > and CPU model Nehalem - that's `-cpu Nehalem` argument to qemu. If I
> > use host CPU config instead, the bug doesn't happen. We intentionally
> > use the Nehalem model in this testing to ensure Fedora doesn't
> > inadvertently stop supporting the CPU baseline it intends to support.
> > 
> > This happens on more than 50% of install attempts, but not all of them
> > (sometimes they work; I've set our test system to retry failures five
> > times for now to mitigate the effects of this bug).
> > 
> > The details of the traces we get in the kernel logs differ between
> > occurrences and also between BIOS and UEFI, which someone suggested
> > indicate this may be some kind of memory corruption issue. But the
> > broad shape is consistent: the installer reaches grub2-mkconfig and we
> > get a kernel crash.
> > 
> > I did also try reproducing this by running `grub2-mkconfig -o
> > /boot/grub/grub2.cfg` multiple times on an *installed* VM with the same
> > kernel and VM config, but could not trigger a crash in this case. There
> > must be something specific about how this happens in the installer
> > environment (for one thing, the installer runs the command chroot'ed
> > into the installed system environment).
> > 
> > I'll attach sample logs from a UEFI failure and a BIOS failure.
> > 
> > I haven't attempted to bisect this yet as I find bisecting kernel
> > issues pretty painful (the Fedora kernel package spec is a bit weird if
> > you're not used to it, building a full kernel takes a long time, I
> > don't know how to do intermittent builds with the Fedora kernel spec,
> > and since I can't yet reproduce this outside the installer I then have
> > to build an installer image with the kernel build in to test it...).
> > But if needs must I'll bite the bullet and do it. If anyone could e.g.
> > guess at a commit or commit series that might be causing this so I
> > could try a targeted reversion, though, that'd be great.
> 
> Update on this: over the holidays, I bisected it to
> 5185e7f9f3bd754ab60680814afd714e2673ef88 . A kernel with that commit
> reverted does not hit the bug.
> 
> I also did some testing with various CPU model configurations. I think
> this actually isn't to do with Nehalem per se, but "virtual machines
> where the CPU configuration does not exactly match the host", or
> something like that.
> 
> I tried a bunch of qemu CPU model settings - nehalem, sandybridge,
> haswell, Skylake-Client and Cascadelake-Server - and got failures with
> all of them, but when I set the model to "host", all tests passed.
> 
> The tests get farmed out to a cluster of systems which have different
> CPUs - one is Broadwell, one is Skylake, one is Cascade Lake - so I
> think when I set the model to anything specific, it will match the host
> CPU on some or none of those systems, but never *all* of them, so the
> bug will always show up.
> 
> I have emailed the author and reviewer of
> 5185e7f9f3bd754ab60680814afd714e2673ef88 (also CCed on this mail) but
> have not heard back from them yet. I've sunk over a week into this bug
> at this point so it'd be great if someone could look at it. It's not
> the biggest regression in the world, but it is a bit awkward for our
> automated testing (I'll have to fiddle around to try and set CPU model
> 'host' for the most badly-affected tests but ensure we still have
> enough tests with 'nehalem' to confirm our baseline isn't moved).
> 
> Thanks, and happy new year!

Can you test this:

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250103065631.26459-1-jgross@suse.com/T/#u                                                                                                                      

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-04  1:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-11 16:51 Adam Williamson
2025-01-02 20:16 ` Adam Williamson
2025-01-04  1:51   ` Luis Chamberlain [this message]
2025-01-04  2:57     ` Adam Williamson
2025-01-06  7:09     ` Adam Williamson
2025-01-10  9:57   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-01-10 17:28     ` Adam Williamson
2025-01-11  8:50       ` Mike Rapoport
     [not found]         ` <358da653bcd8b7875f59e673e5572bddd3677aea.camel@redhat.com>
     [not found]           ` <9cb0bdfc94643fb1544671837b357bc49800ce3f.camel@redhat.com>
2025-01-14  7:55             ` Adam Williamson
2025-01-14  8:08               ` Adam Williamson

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