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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip: x86/mm] x86/mm: Clear _PAGE_DIRTY when we clear _PAGE_RW
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 04:00:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z76R6ESSwiYipQVn@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wj+VBV5kBMfXYNOb+aLt3WJqMKFT0wU=KaV3R12NvN5TA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 07:31:01PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > I don't understand why the dirty bit needs to be saved.  At least in
> > the vfree() case, we're freeing the memory so any unflushed writes to
> > it may as well disappear.  But I don't know all the circumstances in
> > which these functions are called.
> 
> I'm not saying that it needs to be saved.
> 
> But I *am* saying that it needs to be explained why dropping it is fine.
> 
> And I am also saying that your explanation for why it should be
> cleared makes no sense, since two out of three cases also cleared
> _PAGE_PRESENT, at which point the whole shadow stack issue is
> completely irrelevant.
> 
> So please explain *why* clearing PAGE_DIRTY is ok. Don't bring up
> issues like the shadow stack setting that is irrelevant for at least
> two of the cases that you changed.
> 
> If all of these are purely used for vmalloc() or direct mappings, then
> *that* is a valid explanation ("we don't care about dirty bits on
> kernel mappings"), for example.

I think the entire point of this file is to manipulate kernel mappings.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-26  4:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-25 20:10 tip-bot2 for Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2025-02-25 21:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-26  2:45   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-26  3:31     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-26  4:00       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2025-02-26  4:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-26 10:55           ` Ingo Molnar
2025-02-26 19:46             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-27  9:04 ` [tip: x86/mm] x86/mm: Clear _PAGE_DIRTY for kernel mappings " tip-bot2 for Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)

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