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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Vincent Mailhol <mailhol.vincent@wanadoo.fr>
Cc: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tursulin@ursulin.net>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Andi Shyti <andi.shyti@linux.intel.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/8] bits: introduce fixed-type BIT
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 21:56:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8isZodEqhZw5p7-@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <824dc1d1-14f0-433e-aa3f-679527b87077@wanadoo.fr>

On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 02:17:18AM +0900, Vincent Mailhol wrote:
> On 06/03/2025 at 00:48, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 11:48:10PM +0900, Vincent Mailhol wrote:
> >> On 05/03/2025 at 23:33, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 10:00:16PM +0900, Vincent Mailhol via B4 Relay wrote:

...

> >>>> +#define BIT_U8(b) (BIT_INPUT_CHECK(u8, b) + (unsigned int)BIT(b))
> >>>> +#define BIT_U16(b) (BIT_INPUT_CHECK(u16, b) + (unsigned int)BIT(b))
> >>>
> >>> Why not u8 and u16? This inconsistency needs to be well justified.
> >>
> >> Because of the C integer promotion rules, if casted to u8 or u16, the
> >> expression will immediately become a signed integer as soon as it is get
> >> used. For example, if casted to u8
> >>
> >>   BIT_U8(0) + BIT_U8(1)
> >>
> >> would be a signed integer. And that may surprise people.
> > 
> > Yes, but wouldn't be better to put it more explicitly like
> > 
> > #define BIT_U8(b)	(BIT_INPUT_CHECK(u8, b) + (u8)BIT(b) + 0 + UL(0)) // + ULL(0) ?
> 
> OK, the final result would be unsigned. But, I do not follow how this is
> more explicit.
> 
> Also, why doing:
> 
>   (u8)BIT(b) + 0 + UL(0)
> 
> and not just:
> 
>   (u8)BIT(b) + UL(0)
> 
> ?
> 
> What is that intermediary '+ 0' for?
> 
> I am sorry, but I am having a hard time understanding how casting to u8
> and then doing an addition with an unsigned long is more explicit than
> directly doing a cast to the desired type.

Reading this again, I think we don't need it at all. u8, aka unsigned char,
will be promoted to int, but it will be int with a value < 256, can't be signed
as far as I understand this correctly.

> As I mentioned in my answer to Yuri, I have a slight preference for the
> unsigned int cast, but I am OK to go back to the u8/u16 cast as it was
> in v3.

Which means that the simples uXX castings should suffice. In any case we need
test cases for that.

> However, I really do not see how that '+ 0 + UL(0)' would be an improvement.
> 
> > Also, BIT_Uxx() gives different type at the end, shouldn't they all be promoted
> > to unsigned long long at the end? Probably it won't work in real assembly.
> > Can you add test cases which are written in assembly? (Yes, I understand that it will
> > be architecture dependent, but still.)
> 
> No. I purposely guarded the definition of the BIT_Uxx() by a
> 
>   #if !defined(__ASSEMBLY__)
> 
> so that these are never visible in assembly. I actually put a comment to
> explain why the GENMASK_U*() are not available in assembly. I can copy
> paste the same comment to explain why why BIT_U*() are not made
> available either:
> 
>   /*
>    * Missing asm support
>    *
>    * BIT_U*() depends on BITS_PER_TYPE() which would not work in the asm
>    * code as BITS_PER_TYPE() relies on sizeof(), something not available
>    * in asm.  Nethertheless, the concept of fixed width integers is a C
>    * thing which does not apply to assembly code.
>    */
> 
> I really believe that it would be a mistake to make the GENMASK_U*() or
> the BIT_U*() available to assembly.

Ah, okay then!

> >> David also pointed this in the v3:
> >>
> >> https://lore.kernel.org/intel-xe/d42dc197a15649e69d459362849a37f2@AcuMS.aculab.com/
> >>
> >> and I agree with his comment.

Why unsigned char won't work?

> >> I explained this in the changelog below the --- cutter, but it is
> >> probably better to make the explanation more visible. I will add a
> >> comment in the code to explain this.
> >>
> >>>> +#define BIT_U32(b) (BIT_INPUT_CHECK(u32, b) + (u32)BIT(b))
> >>>> +#define BIT_U64(b) (BIT_INPUT_CHECK(u64, b) + (u64)BIT_ULL(b))

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-05 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-05 13:00 [PATCH v4 0/8] bits: Fixed-type GENMASK()/BIT() Vincent Mailhol via B4 Relay
2025-03-05 13:00 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] bits: fix typo 'unsigned __init128' -> 'unsigned __int128' Vincent Mailhol via B4 Relay
2025-03-05 14:30   ` Yury Norov
2025-03-05 14:36     ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-05 14:38       ` Yury Norov
2025-03-05 16:09         ` Vincent Mailhol
2025-03-05 14:34   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-05 13:00 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] bits: split the definition of the asm and non-asm GENMASK() Vincent Mailhol via B4 Relay
2025-03-05 13:00 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] bits: introduce fixed-type genmasks Vincent Mailhol via B4 Relay
2025-03-05 14:30   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-05 14:38     ` Vincent Mailhol
2025-03-05 14:41       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-06 14:48       ` Lucas De Marchi
2025-03-05 15:22   ` Yury Norov
2025-03-05 15:50     ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-19  1:46     ` Yury Norov
2025-03-19  3:34       ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-03-19  4:13         ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-03-21 17:05           ` Yury Norov
2025-03-22 11:46             ` Vincent Mailhol
2025-03-05 15:47   ` Yury Norov
2025-03-05 15:52     ` Jani Nikula
2025-03-05 16:48     ` Vincent Mailhol
2025-03-05 19:45       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-06  9:22         ` Vincent Mailhol
2025-03-06  9:28           ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-05 13:00 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] bits: introduce fixed-type BIT Vincent Mailhol via B4 Relay
2025-03-05 14:33   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-05 14:48     ` Vincent Mailhol
2025-03-05 15:48       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-05 17:17         ` Vincent Mailhol
2025-03-05 19:56           ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2025-03-05 21:50             ` David Laight
2025-03-06  8:12               ` Jani Nikula
2025-03-06  9:12               ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-06  9:38                 ` Vincent Mailhol
2025-03-05 21:13         ` David Laight
2025-03-05 13:00 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] drm/i915: Convert REG_GENMASK* to fixed-width GENMASK_* Vincent Mailhol via B4 Relay
2025-03-05 14:37   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-05 13:00 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] test_bits: add tests for __GENMASK() and __GENMASK_ULL() Vincent Mailhol via B4 Relay
2025-03-05 13:00 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] test_bits: add tests for fixed-type genmasks Vincent Mailhol via B4 Relay
2025-03-05 13:00 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] test_bits: add tests for fixed-type BIT Vincent Mailhol via B4 Relay
2025-03-05 15:59 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] bits: Fixed-type GENMASK()/BIT() Jani Nikula

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