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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>,
	Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] sched_ext: Choose prev_cpu if idle and cache affine without WF_SYNC
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 07:08:15 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9hW_3cPN8u7VURV@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250317082803.3071809-1-joelagnelf@nvidia.com>

Hello, Joel.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 04:28:02AM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> Consider that the previous CPU is cache affined to the waker's CPU and
> is idle. Currently, scx's default select function only selects the
> previous CPU in this case if WF_SYNC request is also made to wakeup on the
> waker's CPU.
> 
> This means, without WF_SYNC, the previous CPU being cache affined to the
> waker and is idle is not considered. This seems extreme. WF_SYNC is not
> normally passed to the wakeup path outside of some IPC drivers but it is
> very possible that the task is cache hot on previous CPU and shares
> cache with the waker CPU. Lets avoid too many migrations and select the
> previous CPU in such cases.

Hmm.. if !WF_SYNC:

1. If smt, if prev_cpu's core is idle, pick it. If not, try to pick an idle
   core in widening scopes.

2. If no idle core is foudn, pick prev_cpu if idle. If not, search for an
   idle CPU in widening scopes.

So, it is considering prev_cpu, right? I think it's preferring idle core a
bit too much - it probably doesn't make sense to cross the NUMA boundary if
there is an idle CPU in this node, at least.

Isn't the cpus_share_cache() code block mostly about not doing
waker-affining if prev_cpu of the wakee is close enough and idle, so
waker-affining is likely to be worse?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-17 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-17  8:28 Joel Fernandes
2025-03-17 17:08 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2025-03-17 17:30   ` Andrea Righi
2025-03-17 17:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-18  5:17       ` Andrea Righi
2025-03-17 22:11     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-03-18  5:09       ` Andrea Righi
2025-03-18 17:00         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-03-18 17:46           ` Andrea Righi
2025-03-18 22:37             ` Joel Fernandes
2025-03-17 22:07   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-03-17 22:25     ` Tejun Heo
2025-03-17 22:45       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-03-18  0:12   ` Libo Chen
2025-03-18  0:14     ` Tejun Heo
2025-03-17 17:20 ` Andrea Righi
2025-03-17 22:44   ` Joel Fernandes

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