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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: Naresh Kamboju <naresh.kamboju@linaro.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, patches@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux@roeck-us.net, shuah@kernel.org,
	patches@kernelci.org, lkft-triage@lists.linaro.org,
	pavel@denx.de, jonathanh@nvidia.com, f.fainelli@gmail.com,
	sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com, srw@sladewatkins.net, rwarsow@gmx.de,
	mptcp@lists.linux.dev, Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
	Mat Martineau <mathew.j.martineau@linux.intel.com>,
	Matthieu Baerts <matthieu.baerts@tessares.net>,
	Anders Roxell <anders.roxell@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6.1 00/42] 6.1.15-rc1 review
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 14:35:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZAH3rLIHE1wIY9c+@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d593e9434dba16a869ec48fcdfe8a3fe540c8a82.camel@redhat.com>

On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 01:41:00PM +0100, Paolo Abeni wrote:
> On Fri, 2023-03-03 at 12:44 +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 12:39:07PM +0100, Paolo Abeni wrote:
> > > Additionally, some self-tests check for known bugs/regressions. Running
> > > them on older kernel will cause real trouble, and checking for bug
> > > presence in the running kernel would be problematic at best, I think.
> > 
> > No, not at all, why wouldn't you want to test for know bugs and
> > regressions and fail?  That's a great thing to do, and so you will know
> > to backport those bugfixes to those older kernels if you have to use
> > them.
> 
> I'm sorry, I likely was not clear at all. What I mean is that the self-
> test for a bug may trigger e.g. memory corruption on the bugged kernel
> (or more specifically to networking, the infamous, recurring
> "unregister_netdevice: waiting for ...") which in turn could cause
> random failures later.
> 
> If that specific case runs on older (unpatched) kernel will screw the
> overall tests results. The same could happen in less-detectable way for
> old bugs non explicitly checked by any test, but still triggered by the
> test-suite. As a consequence I expect that the results observed running
> newer self-tests on older kernel are unreliable. 

For the stable/LTS kernel trees, they should _never_ be unreliable,
otherwise that means we have missed a needed fix and so we need to
resolve that.

Which is why I always recommend running the latest selftests on all
older kernels, and have for a very long time now.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-03 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-01 18:08 Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-01 20:33 ` Conor Dooley
2023-03-01 22:16 ` Florian Fainelli
2023-03-01 23:43 ` Justin Forbes
2023-03-02  1:44 ` Shuah Khan
2023-03-02  4:27 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-03-02  7:27 ` Jon Hunter
2023-03-02 10:19 ` Naresh Kamboju
2023-03-02 10:29   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-02 11:00     ` Naresh Kamboju
2023-03-02 20:02       ` Naresh Kamboju
2023-03-03  7:01         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-03  9:00           ` Naresh Kamboju
2023-03-03  8:04         ` Paolo Abeni
2023-03-03  9:04           ` Naresh Kamboju
2023-03-03  9:23             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-03  9:47               ` Matthieu Baerts
2023-03-03 10:26                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-03 10:56                   ` Matthieu Baerts
2023-03-03 11:31                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-03 11:39               ` Paolo Abeni
2023-03-03 11:44                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-03-03 12:41                   ` Paolo Abeni
2023-03-03 13:35                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2023-03-02 11:37 ` Sudip Mukherjee (Codethink)
2023-03-02 23:16 ` Slade Watkins
2023-03-02 23:25 ` Rudi Heitbaum
2023-03-03  1:31 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-03-03  2:55 ` Ron Economos

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