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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/10] arm64: Add framework to turn an IPI as NMI
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 17:30:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZFvGqD//pm/lZb+p@FVFF77S0Q05N.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=Wny=iFQf2GGuC2qP9hy4FHzpiRpV=ZvxEW77DX02XGzQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 08:28:17AM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> Hi,

Hi Doug,

> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 3:57 PM Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> wrote:
> > This is an attempt to resurrect Sumit's old patch series [1] that
> > allowed us to use the arm64 pseudo-NMI to get backtraces of CPUs and
> > also to round up CPUs in kdb/kgdb. The last post from Sumit that I
> > could find was v7, so I called this series v8. I haven't copied all of
> > his old changelongs here, but you can find them from the link.
> >
> > Since v7, I have:
> > * Addressed the small amount of feedback that was there for v7.
> > * Rebased.
> > * Added a new patch that prevents us from spamming the logs with idle
> >   tasks.
> > * Added an extra patch to gracefully fall back to regular IPIs if
> >   pseudo-NMIs aren't there.
> >
> > Since there appear to be a few different patches series related to
> > being able to use NMIs to get stack traces of crashed systems, let me
> > try to organize them to the best of my understanding:
> >
> > a) This series. On its own, a) will (among other things) enable stack
> >    traces of all running processes with the soft lockup detector if
> >    you've enabled the sysctl "kernel.softlockup_all_cpu_backtrace". On
> >    its own, a) doesn't give a hard lockup detector.
> >
> > b) A different recently-posted series [2] that adds a hard lockup
> >    detector based on perf. On its own, b) gives a stack crawl of the
> >    locked up CPU but no stack crawls of other CPUs (even if they're
> >    locked too). Together with a) + b) we get everything (full lockup
> >    detect, full ability to get stack crawls).
> >
> > c) The old Android "buddy" hard lockup detector [3] that I'm
> >    considering trying to upstream. If b) lands then I believe c) would
> >    be redundant (at least for arm64). c) on its own is really only
> >    useful on arm64 for platforms that can print CPU_DBGPCSR somehow
> >    (see [4]). a) + c) is roughly as good as a) + b).

> It's been 3 weeks and I haven't heard a peep on this series. That
> means nobody has any objections and it's all good to land, right?
> Right? :-P

FWIW, there are still longstanding soundness issues in the arm64 pseudo-NMI
support (and fixing that requires an overhaul of our DAIF / IRQ flag
management, which I've been chipping away at for a number of releases), so I
hadn't looked at this in detail yet because the foundations are still somewhat
dodgy.

I appreciate that this has been around for a while, and it's on my queue to
look at.

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-10 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-19 22:55 Douglas Anderson
2023-04-19 22:55 ` [PATCH v8 01/10] arm64: Add framework to turn " Douglas Anderson
2023-04-19 22:55 ` [PATCH v8 02/10] irqchip/gic-v3: Enable support for SGIs to act as NMIs Douglas Anderson
2023-04-19 22:55 ` [PATCH v8 03/10] arm64: smp: Assign and setup an IPI as NMI Douglas Anderson
2023-04-24 17:53   ` Doug Anderson
2023-04-19 22:55 ` [PATCH v8 04/10] nmi: backtrace: Allow runtime arch specific override Douglas Anderson
2023-04-19 22:55 ` [PATCH v8 05/10] arm64: ipi_nmi: Add support for NMI backtrace Douglas Anderson
2023-04-19 22:56 ` [PATCH v8 06/10] arm64: idle: Tag the arm64 idle functions as __cpuidle Douglas Anderson
2023-05-10 16:43   ` Mark Rutland
2023-05-10 21:13     ` Doug Anderson
2023-04-19 22:56 ` [PATCH v8 07/10] kgdb: Expose default CPUs roundup fallback mechanism Douglas Anderson
2023-05-12 13:48   ` Daniel Thompson
2023-05-15 23:21     ` Doug Anderson
2023-06-01 21:47       ` Doug Anderson
2023-04-19 22:56 ` [PATCH v8 08/10] kgdb: Provide a stub kgdb_nmicallback() if !CONFIG_KGDB Douglas Anderson
2023-05-11 14:34   ` Doug Anderson
2023-05-12 13:52     ` Daniel Thompson
2023-04-19 22:56 ` [PATCH v8 09/10] arm64: kgdb: Roundup cpus using IPI as NMI Douglas Anderson
2023-05-12 14:00   ` Daniel Thompson
2023-05-15 23:11     ` Doug Anderson
2023-04-19 22:56 ` [PATCH v8 10/10] arm64: ipi_nmi: Fallback to a regular IPI if NMI isn't enabled Douglas Anderson
2023-05-10 15:28 ` [PATCH v8 00/10] arm64: Add framework to turn an IPI as NMI Doug Anderson
2023-05-10 16:30   ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2023-05-10 16:42     ` Doug Anderson
2023-05-16 10:09       ` Sumit Garg
2023-06-01 21:46       ` Doug Anderson

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