From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
'Demi Marie Obenour' <demi@invisiblethingslab.com>,
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
Oleksandr Tyshchenko <oleksandr_tyshchenko@epam.com>,
Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Make sscanf() stricter
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 15:34:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZJGq0UTHPdEuIMal@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZIr0z6u17xogE5+n@smile.fi.intel.com>
On Thu 2023-06-15 14:23:59, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 08:06:46AM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > From: Demi Marie Obenour
> > > Sent: 14 June 2023 21:09
>
> ...
>
> > > > What sort of formats and data are being used?
> > >
> > > Base-10 or base-16 integers, with whitespace never being valid.
> >
> > In which case sscanf() really isn't what you are looking for.
> >
> > > > The "%s" format terminates on whitespace.
> > > > Even stroul() (and friends) will skip leading whitespace.
> > >
> > > Yes, which is a reason that strto*l() are just broken IMO.
> >
> > They are not 'broken', that is what is useful most of the time.
> > The usual problem is that "020" is treated as octal.
I do not know how many users depend on this behavior. But I believe
that there are such users. And breaking compatibility with userspace
implementation would make more harm then good in this case.
> > > I’m trying to replace their uses in Xen with custom parsing code.
> >
> > Then write a custom parser :-)
Honestly, I dislike any sscanf() modification which have been suggested
so far:
+ %!d is not acceptable because it produces compiler errors
+ %d! is not acceptable because "use 64!" is a realistic string.
We could not be sure that "<number>!" will never be parsed
in kernel.
+ %d%[!] produces compiler error either. It is hard to parse by eyes.
Also the meaning of such a format would be far from obvious.
+ %pj or another %p modifiers would be hard to understand either.
Yes, we have %pe but I think that only few people really use it.
And it is kind of self-explanatory because it is typically
used together with ERR_PTR() and with variables called
"err" or "ret".
> Hmm... Usually we are against zillion implementations of the same with zillion
> bugs hidden (each buggy implementation with its own bugs).
I would really like to see the code depending on it. The cover letter
suggests that there already is a patch with such a custom parser.
I am sorry if it has already been mentioned. There were so many threads.
Sure, we do not want two full featured sscanf() implementations. But a
wrapper checking for leading whitespace and using kstrto<foo>
family does not sound too complex.
There should always be a good reason to introduce an incompatibility
between the kernel and the userspace implementation of a commonly
used API.
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-20 13:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-12 11:59 Alexey Dobriyan
2023-06-12 20:25 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-06-12 21:00 ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-06-12 21:23 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-06-12 22:16 ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-06-13 13:02 ` David Laight
2023-06-13 15:35 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-06-14 8:23 ` David Laight
2023-06-14 20:08 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-06-15 8:06 ` David Laight
2023-06-15 11:23 ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-06-15 11:38 ` David Laight
2023-06-20 13:34 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2023-06-20 13:52 ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-06-20 13:54 ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-06-20 14:57 ` Petr Mladek
2023-06-20 15:05 ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-06-21 0:56 ` Demi Marie Obenour
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2023-06-10 20:40 Demi Marie Obenour
2023-06-12 15:34 ` Andy Shevchenko
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