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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	E.@paulmck-thinkpad-p17-gen-1.smtp.subspace.kernel.org,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
	Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
	Paul@paulmck-thinkpad-p17-gen-1.smtp.subspace.kernel.org,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH doc] Emphasize that failed atomic operations give no ordering
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2024 17:12:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zbkt94Q8a-xFXrve@FVFF77S0Q05N> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63d9d6f6-05e8-473d-9d09-ce8d3a33ca39@paulmck-laptop>

On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 06:53:38AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> The ORDERING section of Documentation/atomic_t.txt can easily be read as
> saying that conditional atomic RMW operations that fail are ordered when
> those operations have the _acquire() or _release() prefixes.  This is
> not the case, therefore update this section to make it clear that failed
> conditional atomic RMW operations provide no ordering.
> 
> Reported-by: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
> Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
> Cc: Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>
> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> Cc: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
> Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
> Cc: Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>
> Cc: Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>
> Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
> Cc: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>
> Cc: Daniel Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>
> Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
> Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
> Cc: <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/atomic_t.txt b/Documentation/atomic_t.txt
> index d7adc6d543db4..bee3b1bca9a7b 100644
> --- a/Documentation/atomic_t.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/atomic_t.txt
> @@ -171,14 +171,14 @@ The rule of thumb:
>   - RMW operations that are conditional are unordered on FAILURE,
>     otherwise the above rules apply.
>  
> -Except of course when an operation has an explicit ordering like:
> +Except of course when a successful operation has an explicit ordering like:
>  
>   {}_relaxed: unordered
>   {}_acquire: the R of the RMW (or atomic_read) is an ACQUIRE
>   {}_release: the W of the RMW (or atomic_set)  is a  RELEASE
>  
>  Where 'unordered' is against other memory locations. Address dependencies are
> -not defeated.
> +not defeated.  Conditional operations are still unordered on FAILURE.
>  
>  Fully ordered primitives are ordered against everything prior and everything
>  subsequent. Therefore a fully ordered primitive is like having an smp_mb()
> 

FWIW:

Acked-by: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>

Mark.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-30 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-30 14:53 Paul E. McKenney
2024-01-30 16:02 ` Andrea Parri
2024-01-30 16:33   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-01-30 17:12 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2024-01-30 17:58   ` Paul E. McKenney

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