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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
	 Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	Yu Zhang <yu.c.zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	 Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
	Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
	 David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Move private vs. shared check above slot validity checks
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 15:49:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZekBBxiackL1dRTg@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18510419-3030-4af2-89cd-d642b6135046@intel.com>

On Thu, Mar 07, 2024, Kai Huang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6/03/2024 3:02 pm, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 06, 2024, Kai Huang wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 6/03/2024 1:38 pm, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2024, Kai Huang wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 28/02/2024 3:41 pm, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > > > Prioritize private vs. shared gfn attribute checks above slot validity
> > > > > > checks to ensure a consistent userspace ABI.  E.g. as is, KVM will exit to
> > > > > > userspace if there is no memslot, but emulate accesses to the APIC access
> > > > > > page even if the attributes mismatch.
> > > > > 
> > > > > IMHO, it would be helpful to explicitly say that, in the later case (emulate
> > > > > APIC access page) we still want to report MEMORY_FAULT error first (so that
> > > > > userspace can have chance to fixup, IIUC) instead of emulating directly,
> > > > > which will unlikely work.
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm, it's not so much that emulating directly won't work, it's that KVM would be
> > > > violating its ABI.  Emulating APIC accesses after userspace converted the APIC
> > > > gfn to private would still work (I think), but KVM's ABI is that emulated MMIO
> > > > is shared-only.
> > > 
> > > But for (at least) TDX guest I recall we _CAN_ allow guest's MMIO to be
> > > mapped as private, right?  The guest is supposed to get a #VE anyway?
> > 
> > Not really.  KVM can't _map_ emulated MMIO as private memory, because S-EPT
> > entries can only point at convertible memory.
> 
> Right.  I was talking about the MMIO mapping in the guest, which can be
> private I suppose.
> 
> > KVM _could_ emulate in response to a !PRESENT EPT violation, but KVM is not
> > going to do that.
> > 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZcUO5sFEAIH68JIA@google.com
> > 
> 
> Right agreed KVM shouldn't "emulate" !PRESENT fault.

One clarification.  KVM *does* emulate !PRESENT faults.  And that's not optional,
as caching MMIO info in SPTEs is purely an optimization and isn't possible on all
CPUs, e.g. AMD CPUs with MAXPHYADDR=52 don't have reserved bits to set.

My point above was specifically about emulating *private* !PRESENT faults as MMIO.

> I am talking about this -- for TDX guest, if I recall correctly, for guest's
> MMIO gfn KVM still needs to get the EPT violation for the _first_ access, in
> which KVM can configure the EPT entry to make sure "suppress #VE" bit is
> cleared so the later accesses can trigger #VE directly.

That's totally fine, so long as the access is shared, not private.

> I suppose this is still the way we want to implement?
> 
> I am afraid for this case, we will still see the MMIO GFN as private, while
> by default I believe the "guest memory attributes" for that MMIO GFN should
> be shared?

No, the guest should know it's (emulated) MMIO and access the gfn as shared.  That
might generate a !PRESENT fault, but that's again a-ok.

> AFAICT, it seems the "guest memory attributes" code doesn't check whether a
> GFN is MMIO or truly RAM.

That's userspace's responsibility, not KVM's responsibility.  And if userspace
doesn't proactively make emulated MMIO regions shared, then the memory_fault exit
that results from this patch will give userspace the hook it needs to convert the
gfn to shared on-demand.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-06 23:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-28  2:41 [PATCH 00/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Page fault and MMIO cleanups Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 01/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Exit to userspace with -EFAULT if private fault hits emulation Sean Christopherson
2024-03-01  8:48   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-03-07 12:52   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2024-03-12  2:59     ` Binbin Wu
2024-04-04 16:38       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-08  4:22   ` Yan Zhao
2024-04-04 16:45     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 02/16] KVM: x86: Remove separate "bit" defines for page fault error code masks Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 12:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-29 18:40     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 20:56       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-29 13:43   ` Dongli Zhang
2024-02-29 15:25     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 03/16] KVM: x86: Define more SEV+ page fault error bits/flags for #NPF Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  4:43   ` Dongli Zhang
2024-02-28 16:16     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 04/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Pass full 64-bit error code when handling page faults Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  7:30   ` Dongli Zhang
2024-02-28 16:22     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 13:32       ` Dongli Zhang
2024-03-05  3:55   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 05/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Use synthetic page fault error code to indicate private faults Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 11:16   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-29 15:17     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-06  9:43   ` Xu Yilun
2024-03-06 14:45     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  9:05       ` Xu Yilun
2024-03-07 14:36         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-12  5:34   ` Binbin Wu
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 06/16] KVM: x86/mmu: WARN if upper 32 bits of legacy #PF error code are non-zero Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 22:11   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-29 23:07     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-12  5:44       ` Binbin Wu
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 07/16] KVM: x86: Move synthetic PFERR_* sanity checks to SVM's #NPF handler Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 22:19   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-29 22:52     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 23:14       ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-12  9:44   ` Binbin Wu
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 08/16] KVM: x86/mmu: WARN and skip MMIO cache on private, reserved page faults Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 22:26   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-29 23:06     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 23:21       ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-04 15:51         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-05 21:32           ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-06  0:25             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 09/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Move private vs. shared check above slot validity checks Sean Christopherson
2024-03-05 23:06   ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-06  0:38     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-06  1:22       ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-06  2:02         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-06 22:06           ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-06 23:49             ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-03-07  0:28               ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-08  4:54   ` Xu Yilun
2024-03-08 23:28     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-11  4:43       ` Xu Yilun
2024-03-12  0:08         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 10/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Don't force emulation of L2 accesses to non-APIC internal slots Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  0:03   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 11/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Explicitly disallow private accesses to emulated MMIO Sean Christopherson
2024-03-06 22:35   ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-06 22:43     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-06 22:49       ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-06 23:01         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-06 23:20           ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-07 17:10         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-08  0:09           ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 12/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Move slot checks from __kvm_faultin_pfn() to kvm_faultin_pfn() Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  0:11   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 13/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle no-slot faults at the beginning of kvm_faultin_pfn() Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  0:48   ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-07  0:53     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 14/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Set kvm_page_fault.hva to KVM_HVA_ERR_BAD for "no slot" faults Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  0:50   ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-07  1:01     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 15/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Initialize kvm_page_fault's pfn and hva to error values Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  0:46   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 16/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Sanity check that __kvm_faultin_pfn() doesn't create noslot pfns Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  0:46   ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-17 12:48 ` [PATCH 00/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Page fault and MMIO cleanups Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-18 15:40   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-19  6:47   ` Xiaoyao Li

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