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From: Robert Richter <rrichter@amd.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jgross@suse.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, x86@kernel.org,
	Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>,
	Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] perf/x86/ibs: Use CPUID region helper
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 14:05:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZiEMnWaHkn99_oyW@rric.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240416174850.GEZh66AmnDjrLxoXaw@fat_crate.local>

On 16.04.24 19:48:50, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 08:23:58AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > When I was looking at it, I (maybe wrongly) assumed that 0x8000001b and
> > X86_FEATURE_IBS were independent for a reason.  Because, oddly enough:
> > 
> > 	#define IBS_CAPS_DEFAULT         (IBS_CAPS_AVAIL         \
> >                                          | IBS_CAPS_FETCHSAM    \
> >                                          | IBS_CAPS_OPSAM)
> > 
> > So, if the CPU enumerates X86_FEATURE_IBS but has a
> > max_level<IBS_CPUID_FEATURES then it assumes there's a working IBS
> > because the software-inserted IBS_CAPS_DEFAULT has IBS_CAPS_AVAIL set.
> 
> Right, that's why I added Robert. I found this in a F10h doc (old
> Greyhound CPU rust):
> 
> "CPUID Fn8000_0001_ECX Feature Identifiers
> 
> ...
> 
> 10: IBS: Instruction Based Sampling = 1.
> 
> ...
> 
> CPUID Fn8000_001B Instruction Based Sampling Identifiers
> 
> ...
> 
> IBSFFV. IBS feature flags valid. Revision B = 0. Revision C = 1."
> 
> which makes this look like some hack to fix broken CPUID IBS reporting.

There is the X86_FEATURE_IBS bit (Fn8000_0001_ECX, bit 10) which is
available from the beginning of IBS (all Fam10h production releases,
revB onwards).

And right, IBS_CPUID_FEATURES (CPUID Fn8000_001B) was introduced with
revC. The capabilities of revB are set in IBS_CAPS_DEFAULT.

It doesn't look broken to me, simply the ibs caps field was introduced
later which can be determined checking the return code of
get_cpuid_region_leaf().

> 
> And if it is that, I don't think we care, frankly, because revB is
> ooold. Mine is somewhere in the basement on some old board which got
> bricked so I don't know even if I could use it anymore.
> 
> And I'm not even planing to - that CPU is almost 20 years old and no one
> cares whether it can even do IBS.
> 
> So I wouldn't mind at all if we simplify this code for the sake of it.
> I don't think anyone would care or notice.
> 
> But let's see what Robert says first...

My preference would be:

	[...]
	if (!get_cpuid_region_leaf(IBS_CPUID_FEATURES, CPUID_EAX, &caps))
		return IBS_CAPS_DEFAULT;

	if (caps & IBS_CAPS_AVAIL)
		return caps;

	return 0;
	[...]

Not too complex?

This slightly modifies the functionality so that 0 is return if
!IBS_CAPS_AVAIL (instead of IBS_CAPS_DEFAULT). The feature could be
disabled then by overriding IBS_CAPS_AVAIL by just clearing the ibs
leaf, valid even for newer systems.

Thanks,

-Robert

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-18 12:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-03 15:35 [PATCH 0/4] [v2] x86: Add CPUID region helper and clarify Xen startup Dave Hansen
2024-04-03 15:35 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86/cpu: Add and use new CPUID region helper Dave Hansen
2024-04-04  9:04   ` Jürgen Groß
2024-04-08 16:25     ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-03 15:35 ` [PATCH 2/4] perf/x86/ibs: Use " Dave Hansen
2024-04-16 15:12   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-16 15:23     ` Dave Hansen
2024-04-16 17:48       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-18 12:05         ` Robert Richter [this message]
2024-04-22 17:20           ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-22 20:09             ` Robert Richter
2024-04-22 20:41               ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-22 21:30                 ` Robert Richter
2024-04-22 21:45                   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-23  7:45                     ` Robert Richter
2024-04-23  8:33                       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-03 15:35 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86/boot: Explicitly pass NX enabling status Dave Hansen
2024-04-04 10:33   ` Jürgen Groß
2024-04-03 15:35 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86/xen: Enumerate NX from CPUID directly Dave Hansen
2024-04-04 10:44   ` Jürgen Groß
2024-04-04 14:24     ` Dave Hansen
2024-04-04 15:05   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-22 17:44     ` Borislav Petkov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-03-22 17:56 [PATCH 0/4] x86: Add CPUID region helper and clarify Xen startup Dave Hansen
2024-03-22 17:56 ` [PATCH 2/4] perf/x86/ibs: Use CPUID region helper Dave Hansen

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