From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@amd.com>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Zqiang <qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com>, rcu <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] rcu/tasks: Further comment ordering around current task snapshot on TASK-TRACE
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 22:41:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zku1kDj_LjK3WxaA@pavilion.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adf836b2-c660-4dc5-82dd-55d18596c803@paulmck-laptop>
Le Mon, May 20, 2024 at 11:48:54AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney a écrit :
> On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 05:23:03PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > Comment the current understanding of barriers and locking role around
> > task snapshot.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
> > ---
> > kernel/rcu/tasks.h | 18 +++++++++++++++---
> > 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tasks.h b/kernel/rcu/tasks.h
> > index 6a9ee35a282e..05413b37dd6e 100644
> > --- a/kernel/rcu/tasks.h
> > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tasks.h
> > @@ -1738,9 +1738,21 @@ static void rcu_tasks_trace_pregp_step(struct list_head *hop)
> > for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
> > rcu_read_lock();
> > /*
> > - * RQ must be locked because no ordering exists/can be relied upon
> > - * between rq->curr write and subsequent read sides. This ensures that
> > - * further context switching tasks will see update side pre-GP accesses.
> > + * RQ lock + smp_mb__after_spinlock() before reading rq->curr serve
> > + * two purposes:
> > + *
> > + * 1) Ordering against previous tasks accesses (though already enforced
> > + * by upcoming IPIs and post-gp synchronize_rcu()).
> > + *
> > + * 2) Make sure not to miss latest context switch, because no ordering
> > + * exists/can be relied upon between rq->curr write and subsequent read
> > + * sides.
> > + *
> > + * 3) Make sure subsequent context switching tasks will see update side
> > + * pre-GP accesses.
> > + *
> > + * smp_mb() after reading rq->curr doesn't play a significant role and might
> > + * be considered for removal in the future.
> > */
> > t = cpu_curr_snapshot(cpu);
> > if (rcu_tasks_trace_pertask_prep(t, true))
>
> How about this for that comment?
>
> // Note that cpu_curr_snapshot() picks up the target
> // CPU's current task while its runqueue is locked with an
> // smp_mb__after_spinlock(). This ensures that subsequent
> // tasks running on that CPU will see the updater's pre-GP
> // accesses.
Right but to achieve that, the smp_mb() was already enough, courtesy of
the official full barrier on schedule that (this one at least) we could rely on:
Updater Reader
------ -------
X = 1 rq->curr = A
// another context switch later
smp_mb() smp_mb__after_spin_lock() // right after rq_lock on __schedule()
READ rq->curr rq->curr = B
READ X
If the updater misses A, B will see the update on X.
So I think we still need to justify the rq locking on the comments.
> The trailng smp_mb() in cpu_curr_snapshot()
> // does not currently play a role other than simplify
> // that function's ordering semantics. If these simplified
> // ordering semantics continue to be redundant, that smp_mb()
> // might be removed.
That looks good.
>
> I left out the "ordering agains previous tasks accesses" because,
> as you say, this ordering is provided elsewhere.
Right!
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-20 20:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-17 15:23 [PATCH 0/2] rcu/tasks: Fix stale task snapshot Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-17 15:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] rcu/tasks: Fix stale task snaphot from TASK-TRACE Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-17 23:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-17 15:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] rcu/tasks: Further comment ordering around current task snapshot on TASK-TRACE Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-20 18:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-20 20:41 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2024-05-20 23:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-21 9:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-21 13:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
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