From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 6/6] mm: Drain LRUs upon resume to userspace on nohz_full CPUs
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:52:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZoVJhXcR26paUNhX@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZnrSEf1xuFxKxj1D@tiehlicka>
Le Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 04:20:01PM +0200, Michal Hocko a écrit :
> On Tue 25-06-24 15:52:44, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > LRUs can be drained through several ways. One of them may add disturbances
> > to isolated workloads while queuing a work at any time to any target,
> > whether running in nohz_full mode or not.
> >
> > Prevent from that on isolated tasks with draining LRUs upon resuming to
> > userspace using the isolated task work framework.
> >
> > It's worth noting that this is inherently racy against
> > lru_add_drain_all() remotely queueing the per CPU drain work and
> > therefore it prevents from the undesired disturbance only
> > *most of the time*.
>
> Can we simply not schedule flushing on remote CPUs and leave that to the
> "return to the userspace" path?
Do you mean I should add a call on return to the userspace path or can
I expect it to be drained at some point already?
The other limitation with that task work thing is that if the task
queueing the work actually goes to sleep and another task go on the CPU
and does isolated work in userspace, the drain doesn't happen. Now whether
that is a real problem or not, I have no idea.
>
> I do not think we rely on LRU cache flushing for correctness purposes anywhere.
>
> Please also CC linux MM ML once the core infrastructure is agreed on.
Ok, thanks.
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-03 12:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-25 13:52 [RFC PATCH 0/6] mm: LRU drain flush on nohz_full Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-25 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] task_work: Provide means to check if a work is queued Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-25 14:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-25 15:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-07-03 12:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-07-03 12:41 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-07-16 13:00 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-06-25 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] sched/fair: Use task_work_queued() on numa_work Frederic Weisbecker
2024-07-16 13:00 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-06-25 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] sched: Use task_work_queued() on cid_work Frederic Weisbecker
2024-07-16 13:00 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-06-25 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] tick/nohz: Move nohz_full related fields out of hot task struct's places Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-25 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] sched/isolation: Introduce isolated task work Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-26 13:27 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-03 12:47 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-25 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] mm: Drain LRUs upon resume to userspace on nohz_full CPUs Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-25 14:20 ` Michal Hocko
2024-06-26 13:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-27 6:54 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-03 12:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2024-07-04 13:11 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-17 13:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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