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From: Frank Li <Frank.li@nxp.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Cc: "Manivannan Sadhasivam" <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Zhiqiang.Hou@nxp.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	imx@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] MAINTAINERS: drop NXP LAYERSCAPE GEN4 CONTROLLER
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 15:17:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zr+lslEn4cfBJ0A3@lizhi-Precision-Tower-5810> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240816181500.GA69082@bhelgaas>

On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 01:15:00PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 01:09:50PM -0400, Frank Li wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 11:12:31AM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 03:15:52PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 9:53 AM Manivannan Sadhasivam
> > > > <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 08, 2024 at 12:02:17PM -0400, Frank Li wrote:
> > > > > > LX2160 Rev1 use mobivel PCIe controller, but Rev2 switch to designware
> > > > > > PCIe controller. Rev2 is mass production chip. Rev1 will not be maintained
> > > > > > so drop maintainer information for that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Instead of suddenly removing the code and breaking users, you can just mark the
> > > > > driver as 'Obsolete' in MAINTAINERS. Then after some point of time, we could
> > > > > hopefully remove.
> > > >
> > > > Is anyone really going to pay attention to that? It doesn't sound like
> > > > there's anyone to really care, and it is the company that made the h/w
> > > > asking to remove it. The only thing people use pre-production h/w for
> > > > once there's production h/w is as a dust collector.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone complains, it's simple enough to revert these patches.
> > >
> > > My comment was based on the fact that Bjorn was not comfortable in removing the
> > > driver [1] unless no Rev1 boards are not in use and Frank said that he was not
> > > sure about that [2].
> > >
> > > But I think if Frank can atleast guarantee that the chip never made into mass
> > > production or shared with customers, then we can remove the driver IMO. But that
> > > is up to the discretion of Bjorn.
> >
> > I think Bjorn's request is impossible task. Generally chip company send
> > out some evaluted sample to parter, which use these sample to built up
> > some small quantity production. Chip company have not responsibility to
> > call back this samples. There are always some reasons to drop mobivel and
> > switch designware, it may be caused by some IP issues which can't match
> > mass production's requirememnt. Such informaiton already removed from
> > nxp.com. Only Rev2 left.
>
> If you're reasonably confident that nobody will notice the removal of
> support for Rev1, we can include that in the commit log and just
> remove it.
>
> The original commit log basically said "we don't want to support Rev1"
> without any indication of where those parts went or whether anybody
> might care about them.  But if Rev1 only went to partners for
> evaluation and we don't expect end users to have them, I think it's
> reasonable to say that and remove the code.

Thanks, I just find 2020 Yang li try to drop dts part in below thread:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAOesGMhz8PYNG_bgMX-6gka77k1hJOZUv6xqJRqATaJ6mFbk6A@mail.gmail.com/

Olof Johansson raise concern about their HoneyComb.

I added Olof Johansson in this thread. I think HoneyComb use evaluation
chip to build some small quaitity boards.

As my best knowledge, rev1 should have some big problem. I can't find any
detail about these because rev1 informaion already cleanup totally. I don't
prefer continue use risking rev1 chip.

Frank

>
> Bjorn

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-16 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-08 16:02 [PATCH 0/4] PCI: mobivel: Drop layerscape gen4 support Frank Li
2024-08-08 16:02 ` [PATCH 1/4] dt-bindings: PCI: layerscape-pci: drop compatible string fsl,lx2160a-pcie Frank Li
2024-08-10 14:58   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-08 16:02 ` [PATCH 2/4] dt-bindings: PCI: drop layerscape-pcie-gen4.txt Frank Li
2024-08-10 15:00   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-08 16:02 ` [PATCH 3/4] PCI: mobiveil: Drop layerscape-gen4 support Frank Li
2024-08-08 17:26   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-08 18:08     ` Frank Li
2024-08-10 15:01       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-08 16:02 ` [PATCH 4/4] MAINTAINERS: drop NXP LAYERSCAPE GEN4 CONTROLLER Frank Li
2024-08-10 14:54   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-15 15:53   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-08-15 21:15     ` Rob Herring
2024-08-16  5:42       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-08-16 17:09         ` Frank Li
2024-08-16 18:15           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-16 19:17             ` Frank Li [this message]
2024-08-16 23:14               ` Olof Johansson

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