From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: cgroup2 freezer and kvm_vm_worker_thread()
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 08:54:47 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zy0M9yv7xIiKB_Xi@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nlcen6mwyduof423wzfyf3gmvt77uqywzikby2gionpu4mz6za@635i633henks>
Hello,
On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 07:05:46PM +0100, Michal Koutný wrote:
...
> I'd first ask why the kvm_vm_worker_thread needs to be in the KVM task's
> cgroup (and copy its priority at creation time but no later adjustments)?
>
> If it can remain inside root cgroup (like any other good kthread) its
> job may be even chunked into periodic/deferred workqueue pieces with no
> kthread per KVM at all.
That'd be better but I suppose kvm wants them in the same cgroup for a
reason.
> If there are resource control/charging concerns, I was thinking about
> the approach of cloning from the KVM task and never returning to
> userspace, which I see you already discussed with PF_USER_WORKER (based
> on #1). All context would be regularly inherited and no migration would
> be needed.
>
> (I remember issues with the kvm_vm_worker_thread surviving lifespan of
> KVM task and preventing removal of the cgroup. Not sure if that was only
> a race or there's real need for doing some cleanups on an exited task.)
>
> As for #2, I'm not sure there's a good criterion for what to ignore.
> Here it could possibly be PF_KTHREAD or PF_NOFREEZE (I get the latter
> has purpose for system-wide (or v1) freezer). Generally, we can't tell
> what's the effect of thread's liveliness so it seems better to
> conservatively treat the cgroup as unfrozen.
It'd have to be a separate flag which explicitly says that the task is
exempt from cgroup2 freezer, so yeah, it'd be best if we can avoid this
option.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-07 18:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-29 0:07 Tejun Heo
2024-10-29 20:46 ` Roman Gushchin
2024-10-29 22:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-30 0:25 ` Tejun Heo
2024-10-30 0:38 ` Luca Boccassi
2024-10-30 12:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-30 18:14 ` Tejun Heo
2024-11-06 23:21 ` Luca Boccassi
2024-11-06 23:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-11-07 18:05 ` Michal Koutný
2024-11-07 18:54 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2024-11-07 20:48 ` Sean Christopherson
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