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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com>,
	kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 06/11] printk: console: Introduce sysfs interface for per-console loglevels
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 15:54:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zz34GgmFbuZKQOzG@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84frnms3c3.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>

On Wed 2024-11-20 09:49:08, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2024-11-20, Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name> wrote:
> >>> +static ssize_t loglevel_show(struct device *dev, struct device_attribute *attr,
> >>> +			     char *buf)
> >>> +{
> >>> +	struct console *con = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
> >>> +
> >>> +	return sysfs_emit(buf, "%d\n", READ_ONCE(con->level));
> >>
> >>While I admire the use of READ_ONCE() properly, it really doesn't matter
> >>for sysfs as it could change right afterwards and no one cares.  So no
> >>need for that here, right?
> >
> > From my reading of the code it looks like we need this to avoid
> > tearing.
> 
> I cannot imagine that any compiler would perform multiple reads to read
> an aligned field of 4-bytes. Particularly since this function only reads
> this one field.

I believe that the chance is very very small. But are you 100% sure, please?

Honestly, it seems that everyone agrees that the READ_ONCE() makes
some sense. I do not understand why some many people wants to remove
it. I personally prefer to be on the safe side.

> At most it is kind of annotating lockless access to con->level. But
> since it is not using data_race(), it would still trigger KCSAN with a
> warning. I recommend removing it.

I actually suggested to make a wrapper similar to
console_srcu_read_flags() and use the data_race() there, see
https://lore.kernel.org/r/Zy4368zf-sJyyzja@pathway.suse.cz

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-20 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-28 16:45 [PATCH v6 00/11] printk: console: Per-console loglevels Chris Down
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 01/11] printk: Avoid delaying messages that aren't solicited by any console Chris Down
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 02/11] printk: Use struct console for suppression and extended console state Chris Down
2024-11-08  9:57   ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-15  8:30   ` John Ogness
2024-11-20  4:17     ` Chris Down
2024-11-20 12:03       ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 03/11] printk: console: Implement core per-console loglevel infrastructure Chris Down
2024-11-08 16:10   ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-12 10:25     ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-14 16:51     ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 04/11] printk: Support toggling per-console loglevel via syslog() and cmdline Chris Down
2024-11-12 10:56   ` Conflict with FORCE_CON: " Petr Mladek
2024-11-14 19:28     ` Chris Down
2024-11-15 11:41       ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-12 12:59   ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-14 17:14   ` syslog warning: was: " Petr Mladek
2024-11-14 18:53     ` Chris Down
2024-11-15 11:36       ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 05/11] MAINTAINERS: Mark printk-basics.rst as owned by printk subsystem Chris Down
2024-10-28 23:26   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-28 23:52     ` Chris Down
2024-11-12 13:00   ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 06/11] printk: console: Introduce sysfs interface for per-console loglevels Chris Down
2024-11-13 15:58   ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-13 15:59   ` register_device: was: " Petr Mladek
2024-11-14 18:41     ` Chris Down
2024-11-15  4:08       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-11-18 15:19     ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-15  4:20   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-11-15 14:09     ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-20  5:01     ` Chris Down
2024-11-20  8:43       ` John Ogness
2024-11-20 14:54         ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2024-11-20 15:29           ` John Ogness
2024-11-20 14:45       ` Petr Mladek
2025-01-10 10:27   ` Joel Granados
2025-01-15 10:31     ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 07/11] printk: Constrain hardware-addressed console checks to name position Chris Down
2024-10-29  8:26   ` Tony Lindgren
2024-11-13 16:11   ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 08/11] printk: Support setting initial console loglevel via console= on cmdline Chris Down
2024-11-14  9:11   ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 09/11] printk: Add sysctl interface to set global loglevels Chris Down
2024-11-14 16:21   ` Petr Mladek
2025-01-10 10:09     ` Joel Granados
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 10/11] printk: Deprecate the kernel.printk sysctl interface Chris Down
2024-11-14 16:25   ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:46 ` [PATCH v6 11/11] printk: Purge default_console_loglevel Chris Down
2024-11-14 16:38   ` Petr Mladek

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