From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 3/3] phy: dp83td510: Utilize ALCD for cable length measurement when link is active
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:49:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a02698f3-94b6-4e6c-b13a-7fbeba2ce42f@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240820101256.1506460-4-o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 12:12:56PM +0200, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
> In industrial environments where 10BaseT1L PHYs are replacing existing
> field bus systems like CAN, it's often essential to retain the existing
> cable infrastructure. After installation, collecting metrics such as
> cable length is crucial for assessing the quality of the infrastructure.
> Traditionally, TDR (Time Domain Reflectometry) is used for this purpose.
> However, TDR requires interrupting the link, and if the link partner
> remains active, the TDR measurement will fail.
>
> Unlike multi-pair systems, where TDR can be attempted during the MDI-X
> switching window, 10BaseT1L systems face greater challenges. The TDR
> sequence on 10BaseT1L is longer and coincides with uninterrupted
> autonegotiation pulses, making TDR impossible when the link partner is
> active.
>
> The DP83TD510 PHY provides an alternative through ALCD (Active Link
> Cable Diagnostics), which allows for cable length measurement without
> disrupting an active link. Since a live link indicates no short or open
> cable states, ALCD can be used effectively to gather cable length
> information.
>
> Enhance the dp83td510 driver by:
> - Leveraging ALCD to measure cable length when the link is active.
> - Bypassing TDR when a link is detected, as ALCD provides the required
> information without disruption.
>
> Signed-off-by: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
> ---
> drivers/net/phy/dp83td510.c | 83 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> 1 file changed, 77 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/net/phy/dp83td510.c b/drivers/net/phy/dp83td510.c
> index 551e37786c2da..10a46354ad2b8 100644
> --- a/drivers/net/phy/dp83td510.c
> +++ b/drivers/net/phy/dp83td510.c
> @@ -169,6 +169,10 @@ static const u16 dp83td510_mse_sqi_map[] = {
> #define DP83TD510E_UNKN_030E 0x30e
> #define DP83TD510E_030E_VAL 0x2520
>
> +#define DP83TD510E_ALCD_STAT 0xa9f
> +#define DP83TD510E_ALCD_COMPLETE BIT(15)
> +#define DP83TD510E_ALCD_CABLE_LENGTH GENMASK(10, 0)
> +
> static int dp83td510_config_intr(struct phy_device *phydev)
> {
> int ret;
> @@ -327,6 +331,16 @@ static int dp83td510_cable_test_start(struct phy_device *phydev)
> {
> int ret;
>
> + /* If link partner is active, we won't be able to use TDR, since
> + * we can't force link partner to be silent. The autonegotiation
> + * pulses will be too frequent and the TDR sequence will be
> + * too long. So, TDR will always fail. Since the link is established
> + * we already know that the cable is working, so we can get some
> + * extra information line the cable length using ALCD.
> + */
> + if (phydev->link)
> + return 0;
> +
> +static int dp83td510_cable_test_get_status(struct phy_device *phydev,
> + bool *finished)
> +{
> + *finished = false;
> +
> + if (!phydev->link)
> + return dp83td510_cable_test_get_tdr_status(phydev, finished);
> +
> + return dp83td510_cable_test_get_alcd_status(phydev, finished);
Sorry, missed this earlier. It seems like there is a race here. It
could be the cable test was started without link, but when phylib
polls a few seconds later link could of established. Will valid ALCD
results be returned?
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-20 16:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-20 10:12 [PATCH net-next v2 0/3] Add ALCD Support to Cable Testing Interface Oleksij Rempel
2024-08-20 10:12 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/3] ethtool: Extend cable testing interface with result source information Oleksij Rempel
2024-08-20 16:40 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-08-20 22:01 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-20 10:12 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/3] ethtool: Add support for specifying information source in cable test results Oleksij Rempel
2024-08-20 16:44 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-08-20 10:12 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/3] phy: dp83td510: Utilize ALCD for cable length measurement when link is active Oleksij Rempel
2024-08-20 16:49 ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2024-08-20 17:59 ` Oleksij Rempel
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