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From: "Guo, Wangyang" <wangyang.guo@intel.com>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Tianyou Li <tianyou.li@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Dan Liang <dan.liang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] lib/group_cpus: make group CPU cluster aware
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 11:02:47 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a101fe80-ca0b-4b4b-94b1-f08db1b164fc@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRMnR5DRdsU8lGtU@fedora>

On 11/11/2025 8:08 PM, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 01:31:04PM +0800, Guo, Wangyang wrote:
>> On 11/11/2025 11:25 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 10:06:08AM +0800, Wangyang Guo wrote:
>>>> As CPU core counts increase, the number of NVMe IRQs may be smaller than
>>>> the total number of CPUs. This forces multiple CPUs to share the same
>>>> IRQ. If the IRQ affinity and the CPU’s cluster do not align, a
>>>> performance penalty can be observed on some platforms.
>>>
>>> Can you add details why/how CPU cluster isn't aligned with IRQ
>>> affinity? And how performance penalty is caused?
>>
>> Intel Xeon E platform packs 4 CPU cores as 1 module (cluster) and share the
>> L2 cache. Let's say, if there are 40 CPUs in 1 NUMA domain and 11 IRQs to
>> dispatch. The existing algorithm will map first 7 IRQs each with 4 CPUs and
>> remained 4 IRQs each with 3 CPUs each. The last 4 IRQs may have cross
>> cluster issue. For example, the 9th IRQ which pinned to CPU32, then for
>> CPU31, it will have cross L2 memory access.
> 
> 
> CPUs sharing L2 usually have small number, and it is common to see one queue
> mapping includes CPUs from different L2.
> 
> So how much does crossing L2 hurt IO perf?
We see 15%+ performance difference in FIO libaio/randread/bs=8k.

> They still should share same L3 cache, and cpus_share_cache() should be
> true when the IO completes on the CPU which belong to different L2 with the
> submission CPU, and remote completion via IPI won't be triggered.
Yes, remote IPI not triggered.


BR
Wangyang

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-12  3:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-11  2:06 Wangyang Guo
2025-11-11  3:25 ` Ming Lei
2025-11-11  5:31   ` Guo, Wangyang
2025-11-11 12:08     ` Ming Lei
2025-11-12  3:02       ` Guo, Wangyang [this message]
2025-11-13  1:38         ` Ming Lei
2025-11-13  3:32           ` Guo, Wangyang
2025-11-18  6:29           ` Guo, Wangyang
2025-11-19  1:52             ` Ming Lei
2025-11-24  7:58               ` Guo, Wangyang
2025-12-08  2:47                 ` Guo, Wangyang

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