From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422D0CE7A88 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2023 06:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229835AbjIWGHG (ORCPT ); Sat, 23 Sep 2023 02:07:06 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:53934 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229541AbjIWGHE (ORCPT ); Sat, 23 Sep 2023 02:07:04 -0400 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (relay9-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:dc4:8::229]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27909B9; Fri, 22 Sep 2023 23:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B489FF803; Sat, 23 Sep 2023 06:06:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=arinc9.com; s=gm1; t=1695449214; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=4oWvaYHBJFJ7O18JZNgwdBYWtURWzzwNBvvz0evj8O0=; b=bmNdp5wiJX4kR9210Tg5h8vw/C+LDUgASJM+L38kQ5zwtSJ0ZsD5WjI9bmd3v1xtSTo34j Mnf1r6k/vB5tk/3r3l4oq9duEyJvLJ7rny5M6wl9Iam9s5L0nf8QruRA5UIvZupcUB25Rw NYW7dYS66SXbVxI6DOaCHewAiyMQH5CfkwBOBbG8/PF/gv/BgNlf3WGVEcOmnF3NXyr9mO R5ea45R4MivUVkJQhmKS7+ezlXx+dqp4PffhAsPxoTYAtYTPg9s9G0opA9kC9qeJt0Mbws tMFAq/inmnLXiz6AxYPTloye8TBYOFHrBu2N77AMkdxnGsYOFRw5tF3nwIDU3g== Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 09:06:28 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 00/10] define and enforce phylink bindings To: Andrew Lunn , "Russell King (Oracle)" Cc: Rob Herring , Krzysztof Kozlowski , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , Conor Dooley , George McCollister , Florian Fainelli , Vladimir Oltean , Kurt Kanzenbach , Matthias Brugger , AngeloGioacchino Del Regno , Woojung Huh , UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com, Linus Walleij , =?UTF-8?Q?Alvin_=C5=A0ipraga?= , =?UTF-8?B?Q2zDqW1lbnQgTMOpZ2Vy?= , Marcin Wojtas , Lars Povlsen , Steen Hegelund , Daniel Machon , Radhey Shyam Pandey , Daniel Golle , Landen Chao , DENG Qingfang , Sean Wang , Geert Uytterhoeven , Magnus Damm , Maxime Chevallier , Nicolas Ferre , Claudiu Beznea , Marek Vasut , Claudiu Manoil , Alexandre Belloni , John Crispin , Madalin Bucur , Ioana Ciornei , Lorenzo Bianconi , Felix Fietkau , Horatiu Vultur , Oleksij Rempel , Alexandre Torgue , Giuseppe Cavallaro , Jose Abreu , Grygorii Strashko , Sekhar Nori , Shyam Pandey , mithat.guner@xeront.com, erkin.bozoglu@xeront.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org References: <20230916110902.234273-1-arinc.unal@arinc9.com> <6c1bb7df-34cd-4db9-95b6-959c87b68588@arinc9.com> Content-Language: en-US From: =?UTF-8?B?QXLEsW7DpyDDnE5BTA==?= In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GND-Sasl: arinc.unal@arinc9.com Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 23.09.2023 01:44, Andrew Lunn wrote: >> However, to dress this up as "phylink requires xyz, so lets create >> a phylink binding description" is just wrong. > > +1 > > Also, phylink is a Linux implementation detail. Other OSes using the > binding don't need to have phylink. Yet they can still use the DT > blobs because they should describe the hardware, independent of how > the OS drives that hardware. I haven't stated it directly but I've been agreeing to this fact since the start of the discussion on patch 7. Arınç