From: righi.andrea@gmail.com
To: "Paul Menage" <menage@google.com>
Cc: "Vivek Goyal" <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
"KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki" <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"Balbir Singh" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"linux kernel mailing list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Dhaval Giani" <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Kazunaga Ikeno" <k-ikeno@ak.jp.nec.com>,
"Morton Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Thomas Graf" <tgraf@redhat.com>,
"Ulrich Drepper" <drepper@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH -mm] cgroup: uid-based rules to add processes efficiently in the right cgroup
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:12:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a2776ec50808190812g15ecd48dw23db4337016f38a2@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830808181405i3ec1f9fdp4d8ca7ab675b2c5f@mail.gmail.com>
On 8/18/08, Paul Menage <menage@google.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:33 AM, Andrea Righi <righi.andrea@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> [ I wrote this patch for a "special purpose" environment, where a lot of
>> short-lived processes belonging to different users are spawned by
>> different daemons,
>
> What kinds of daemons are these? Is it not possible to add some
> libcgroup calls to these daemons?
unfortunately I don't have too much details for now, so I was just
looking for the most generic solution. The PAM lib approach seems
reasonable for each daemon that represents an entry point to the
system, and, to a large degree, I like the userspace solution (e.g.
the libcgroup as reported by Vivek). It seems to be the right way to
handle all the possible/complex rule an admin would like to define.
>
> I'm reluctant to add features like this to the kernel side of cgroups
agree
> due to their "magical" nature - any task that does a setuid() now
> risks being swept off into a different cgroup.
If the admin configures so, moving tasks that do setuid() in different
cgroups should be an expected behaviour, isn't it?
>
> Having the cgroup attachment done explicitly e.g. by a PAM library at
> login time is much less likely to cause unexpected behaviour.
>
> Maybe if we had a way to control which tasks the magical setuid
> switching occurs for, it might be more acceptable. (Perhaps base it on
> the cgroup of the task that's doing the setuid as well?
do you mean create a cgroup subsystem to handle different per-cgroup
setuid() switching behaviours?
>
> Other thoughts:
>
> - what about other uids (euid, fsuid)?
>
> - what about multiple hierarchies?
>
> - if the attach fails, userspace gets no notification.
good points.
For the last one we could just return an error code from cgroup_fork()
and goto bad_fork_cleanup_cgroup (in this way the fork/exec would
fail anyway).
>
> Paul
>
Thanks,
-Andrea
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-19 15:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-01 19:11 [RFC] How to handle the rules engine for cgroups Vivek Goyal
2008-07-02 9:33 ` Kazunaga Ikeno
2008-07-03 1:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-03 15:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-04 0:34 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 3:17 ` Li Zefan
2008-07-08 9:35 ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-08 13:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 9:23 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 14:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 15:42 ` Dhaval Giani
2008-07-10 16:51 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 14:48 ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-10 15:40 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 15:56 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-07-10 17:25 ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-10 17:39 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-07-10 18:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 22:29 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-07-11 0:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-14 13:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-14 14:44 ` David Collier-Brown
2008-07-14 15:21 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-17 7:05 ` Kazunaga Ikeno
2008-07-17 13:47 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20080717170717.GA3718@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2008-07-18 8:12 ` [Libcg-devel] " Dhaval Giani
2008-07-18 20:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-17 10:33 ` [RFC] [PATCH -mm] cgroup: uid-based rules to add processes efficiently in the right cgroup Andrea Righi
2008-08-18 12:35 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-19 14:35 ` righi.andrea
2008-08-18 21:05 ` Paul Menage
2008-08-19 12:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-26 0:54 ` Paul Menage
2008-08-26 13:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-26 14:35 ` Balbir Singh
2008-08-26 15:04 ` David Collier-Brown
2008-08-26 16:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-26 16:32 ` David Collier-Brown
2008-08-26 16:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-09-04 18:25 ` Paul Menage
2008-08-19 15:12 ` righi.andrea [this message]
2008-08-26 0:55 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-14 15:07 ` Re: [RFC] How to handle the rules engine for cgroups kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-07-10 9:07 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 14:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 16:41 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 17:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 17:27 ` [Libcg-devel] " Dhaval Giani
2008-07-10 14:33 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-10 16:46 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 17:18 ` [Libcg-devel] " Dhaval Giani
2008-07-10 17:30 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-10 17:44 ` Dhaval Giani
2008-07-10 15:49 ` Dhaval Giani
2008-07-18 9:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-18 15:46 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-18 16:39 ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-18 18:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-07-18 23:05 ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-07-18 23:10 ` kamezawa.hiroyu
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