From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932207AbdELIYI (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 May 2017 04:24:08 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:55829 "EHLO mout.web.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754931AbdELIXz (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 May 2017 04:23:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Clarification for general change acceptance To: Joe Perches Cc: Dan Carpenter , Stephen Hemminger , Wolfram Sang , Haiyang Zhang , kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, LKML , devel@linuxdriverproject.org References: <587dbcf5-8b12-fac7-693e-5f471e6d5167@users.sourceforge.net> <20170511093015.4cdfdb6c@xeon-e3> <20170512070909.xxa62d2cde3qoj4f@mwanda> <8d38547f-a086-438a-5b2a-4d11929530ec@users.sourceforge.net> <1494575540.2028.17.camel@perches.com> From: SF Markus Elfring Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 10:23:37 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1494575540.2028.17.camel@perches.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:pq9XEtRhfhCXowMYrD/TeuqKrluMLribDKai1lMRVu1mtFVk99j GJSNNMRZxqSvyhFfpnst8HIdFt9pW5dGJbRDD9zgNo11/reke73bEFWXjHwSFARILcmLWYo QfRcuKHK1cl1qrmc3dBuFU/Y792pFUt5aczI5mZHZse+G/ywdj2G/8TzgOOHjrR5WpHOr7F oRJaSKH3o9jMX8Akh5N5Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:BkqbyWn78Z0=:3JvaN0Tv9tz6yu8Bz76IOq KcmaUZ7P7OrHqDYSqQs3FdDpSaJpMI4SjFD8Xz/juZC3czZpCsgTQzNtU6YGU4eorqoVYzlro PcxCeBgcDe/ao5LgvIH6eCXznrNLZELeO3PTW0jNvL/vr4vFU77MuJJjSwRqG0Eqx4Rgnioca +ioZ7wfPCiOUzAIko5Q8qOkq4k1KdORP3cjfqKcguXeLCrWWAtU+XuEVTUt6lGIuif6frFP6l aSoP+4Jtx5u2QeSzikNN6ajfSuxzyu6gyoJnneQVYJ8GUURjjJlDGGV41fnQlR1zCS3dXjfT6 l/B3LiYNqMCEBc34ZABIMMf+DdpxrSvrbebkZX4Q9sLDzWJj8q1vsjw7ZYz4KZ+ZUntK3n3fp /DMR2mN8jDK0FfygzxflKNIZDGGwhRPPGIfTLZDXMf1LlKHmBoKQKNIrXPaUrFPbT2jLwF4Mz Dh1uZykmwEiNWMnhN92YhHkC21TwMIVxD6E5Mh3bSnwEDVHIjH+5EnRN4Y1I4WD4WL6bvbMQ+ WQATtLdqn15XnayZ4a23gTG5OohpA0hEhL+9oG05xLUFHCwE0kYnLPi+SulyHHgcJgSkRFJJL JjpCT/7oTgX03IeGg0E2rZSY5ytnAyc3COO5/stoFeqqdx0X05sPl/O/8jOdinBzriqWOOHxw gbNSofF0wifhkMpqEMNbE0RMgqgb3LVzqPWrfSkod22G1OBl4ZPLa/NCPD9aiRdDBnguT7ZNG hXNUgtvMD2e6jAOpmoX3B7rjsxrpeRADhYB7LKRZddKfW/QlDxUpPh/reU68hMBMqbspCL7Px nR2NN0L Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Developer reputation matters for somewhat controversial > patches being applied as well as non-controversial and > obviously correct patches being ignored. I am aware that there are more factors involved. > Your reputation means most all of your patches fall into > the latter category. I hope that this situation will evolve into directions which you would prefer more. > You have produced many trivial patches This is true. I started my concrete contributions to Linux software modules with simple source code search patterns. > that have caused new defects. A few unwanted programming mistakes just happened somehow. > That is simply unacceptable. Glitches are not desired as usual. > Especially when you don't immediately fix the problems you cause. I find my response times reasonable to some degree so far. Remaining open issues can be clarified by a corresponding constructive development dialogue, can't they? > If you would stop producing the trivial and instead > channel your efforts into actual bug fixing and logic > corrections and not just style modifications with no > code impact, your patch acceptance rate would increase. I find your conclusion appropriate. But I will come along source code places where I am going to update details which are also trivial. > I have given you many suggestions for actual structural > improvements to kernel code. I have got an other impression. There were a few occasions where advanced change possibilities were proposed. > You have ignored _all_ of them and I am unlikely to try > to interact with you any longer until your wheat:chaff > ratio changes. Can the efforts for deleting questionable error messages around Linux memory allocation functions improve this situation? Regards, Markus