From: "Ulrich Drepper" <drepper@gmail.com>
To: "Davi Arnaut" <davi@haxent.com.br>
Cc: "Eric Dumazet" <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Davide Libenzi" <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 14/22] pollfs: pollable futex
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 10:10:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a36005b50705021010l5c7badc6ub61228f14fdbb28a@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4638C37D.7050503@haxent.com.br>
On 5/2/07, Davi Arnaut <davi@haxent.com.br> wrote:
> thread A:
> int fd = plfutex(addr, 0);
> do
> poll(fdset+fd);
> process network events
> queue obj to thread B
> if fd:
> job processed
>
> thread B:
> wait_job();
> process_job();
> raise_event(addr);
This is not the model you can implement with your changes. Because
every single waiter is woken you need one thread listening for the
jobs and then distribute the work. Otherwise you have thundering
herds of threads and only one gets to do some work.
> It simple as is, there is no need to overdesign.
There is no reason to go with a limited, too-simple minded design if
we've already identified a much better design. The fact that poll is
used today does not excuse piling on more and more code which makes
additional functions which don't fit into the poll framework barely
work. Plus, poll/epoll itself is a problem.
And you cannot talk about little changes and no "overdesign". You
have 22 patches for all this. It's not just limited to futexes, it's
the whole thing which IMO is unnecessary ballast going forward.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-02 17:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-02 5:22 [patch 00/22] pollfs: filesystem abstraction for pollable objects Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 01/22] pollfs: kernel-side API header Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 02/22] pollfs: file system operations Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 03/22] pollfs: asynchronously wait for a signal Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 04/22] pollfs: pollable signal Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 05/22] pollfs: pollable signal compat code Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 06/22] pollfs: export the plsignal system call Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 07/22] pollfs: x86, wire up " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 08/22] pollfs: x86_64, " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 09/22] pollfs: pollable hrtimers Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 21:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-02 23:00 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 10/22] pollfs: export the pltimer system call Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 11/22] pollfs: x86, wire up " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 12/22] pollfs: x86_64, " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 13/22] pollfs: asynchronous futex wait Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 14/22] pollfs: pollable futex Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-02 6:16 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 6:39 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-02 6:54 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 7:11 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 7:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 7:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-02 8:08 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 8:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-02 16:39 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 16:59 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 17:10 ` Ulrich Drepper [this message]
2007-05-02 17:29 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-02 17:53 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 18:21 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-03 13:46 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-03 18:24 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-03 19:03 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-03 22:14 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-04 15:28 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-04 19:15 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-04 19:20 ` 2.6.20.4 / 2.6.21.1 AT91SAM9260-EK oops Ryan Ordway
2007-05-04 23:38 ` [patch 14/22] pollfs: pollable futex Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-05 18:54 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-06 7:50 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-06 19:47 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-06 19:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-06 20:18 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-06 21:57 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-07 5:33 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-07 5:46 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 17:37 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 17:49 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 18:05 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-03 13:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 12:20 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 12:39 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 16:46 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-02 17:05 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 15/22] pollfs: export the plfutex system call Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 16/22] pollfs: x86, wire up " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 17/22] pollfs: x86_64, " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 18/22] pollfs: check if a AIO event ring is empty Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 19/22] pollfs: pollable aio Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 20/22] pollfs: export the plaio system call Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 21/22] pollfs: x86, wire up " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 5:22 ` [patch 22/22] pollfs: x86_64, " Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 6:05 ` [patch 00/22] pollfs: filesystem abstraction for pollable objects Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 17:28 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-02 17:47 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 18:23 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-02 18:50 ` Davi Arnaut
2007-05-02 19:42 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-02 20:11 ` Davi Arnaut
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