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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>, Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	ljs@kernel.org
Cc: xu.xin16@zte.com.cn, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, usamaarif642@gmail.com, yuzhao@google.com,
	aarcange@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	chengming.zhou@linux.dev, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
	liam@infradead.org, ryan.roberts@arm.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
	baohua@kernel.org, lance.yang@linux.dev, matthew.brost@intel.com,
	joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com, rakie.kim@sk.com, byungchul@sk.com,
	gourry@gourry.net, ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com,
	apopple@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v1 2/3] mm/migrate.c: Prevent folio splitting from interacting with KSM
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 11:30:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a464c20c-8b41-4264-b560-497ed91cbaaa@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA1CXcA84BtQZxOpE0sWgb2ed6y3m0NLKkWD+5MfWS9eF5dqTQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/15/26 06:05, Nico Pache wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2026 at 11:27 AM Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 09 Jun 2026 10:07:20 -0400 Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
> 
> This would be a good intermediate solution while allowing backward
> compatibility.

And an absolute horrible user-visible toggle :)

> 
>>>
>>> Just think out loud. Or just skip huge pages all the time unless memory pressure
>>> is present. Basically treat KSM as a way of reducing memory pressure by merging
>>> pages.
> 
> Hmm interesting. We should decide on future changes before committing
> to one direction; however, i think the immediate solution would be
> what I currently have prepped for v2.
> 
> My v2 follows my RFC alternative approach: skip zeropage remapping if
> the split comes from KSM. It also contains the patch (3) from this
> version, which skips zeropage remapping if the shrinker is disabled.
> 
>>
>> I do agree with this. I questioned about if it even makes sense to split THP
>> with KSM in RFC (https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260510114001.600681-1-usama.arif@linux.dev/)
> 
> This is indeed a good question but I don't know the right solution.
> 
> Perhaps we can discuss it here.
> 
> So far here are the potential solutions:
> a) skip zeropage remapping if the split comes from KSM
> b) skip zeropage remapping completely if the shrinker is disabled
> c) Disable KSM THP splitting completely
> d) add a skip_huge_page sysfs toggle
> e) only scan THPs when memory pressure is present
> 
> (a)+(b) would be my V2 which I can send out whenever.
> 
> (c) is the nuclear option, but perhaps KSM for THP is rather
> inefficient and pointless
> 
> (d) could be used with (a) and (b) and allows more flexibility than (c)
> 
> (e) is a more dynamic approach, and could be combined with (b) and (d)
> 
> Let me know what you think :)

Where does the current patch set fall into and what's the problem with it?

-- 
Cheers,

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-15  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-09 11:46 [PATCH mm-unstable v1 0/3] MM: Tighten control over zero-page remapping Nico Pache
2026-06-09 11:46 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v1 1/3] mm/ksm: export ksm_is_running() to check KSM merge state Nico Pache
2026-06-09 14:13   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-09 11:46 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v1 2/3] mm/migrate.c: Prevent folio splitting from interacting with KSM Nico Pache
2026-06-09 12:12   ` xu.xin16
2026-06-09 12:57     ` Nico Pache
2026-06-09 12:59       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-09 13:47       ` xu.xin16
2026-06-09 14:07         ` Zi Yan
2026-06-09 17:27           ` Usama Arif
2026-07-15  4:05             ` Nico Pache
2026-07-15  8:47               ` xu.xin16
2026-07-15  8:56                 ` xu.xin16
2026-07-15  9:34                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-15  9:30               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-07-15 10:54               ` Usama Arif
2026-06-09 13:06     ` Lance Yang
2026-06-09 13:42       ` Nico Pache
2026-06-09 13:49         ` xu.xin16
2026-06-09 14:14           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-09 14:26   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-09 11:46 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v1 3/3] mm/huge_memory.c: Skip zero-page remapping when underused THP shrinker is disabled Nico Pache

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