From: Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@ti.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Robert Jarzmik <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>, <vinod.koul@intel.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <tony@atomide.com>,
<dmaengine@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] dmaengine: omap-dma: Complete the cookie first on transfer completion
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:00:33 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a4b6fc99-13a9-b78f-b395-8b3e5eb30642@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160721094704.GL5783@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On 07/21/16 12:47, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 12:33:12PM +0300, Peter Ujfalusi wrote:
>> On 07/20/16 09:26, Robert Jarzmik wrote:
>>> Speaking of which, from a purely design point of view, as long as you think
>>> beforehand what is your sequence, ie. what is the sequence of your link
>>> chaining, completion handling, etc ..., both marking before or after next tx
>>> start should be fine IMHO.
>>
>> Yes, it might be a bit better from performance point of view if we first start
>> the pending descriptor (if there is one) then do the vchan_cookie_complete().
>> On the other hand if we care more about latency and accuracy we should
>> complete the transfer first then look for pending descriptors. But since
>> virt_dma is using a tasklet for the real completion, the latency is always
>> going to be when the tasklet is given the chance to execute.
>
> I think this shows a slight misunderstanding of the DMA engine API. The
> DMA completion is defined by the API to always happen in tasklet context,
> which is why the virt-dma stuff does it that way - and all other DMA
> engine drivers. It's one of the fundamentals of the API.
>
> As it happens in tasklet context, tasklets can be scheduled to run with
> variable latency, so any use of the DMA engine API which has a predictable
> latency around the completion handling is going to be unreliable.
>
> Remember also that with circular buffers, there's no guarantee of getting
> period-based completion callbacks - several periods can complete and you
> are only guaranteed to get one completion callback.
>
> So, the idea that completion callbacks can have anything to do with low
> latency or accuracy is totally incorrect.
Thanks for refreshing my memory, you are absolutely right.
--
Péter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-22 11:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-14 12:42 [PATCH 0/7] dmaengine:omap-dma: Linked List transfer for slave_sg Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-14 12:42 ` [PATCH 1/7] dmaengine: omap-dma: Simplify omap_dma_start_sg parameter list Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-14 12:42 ` [PATCH 2/7] dmaengine: omap-dma: Complete the cookie first on transfer completion Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-18 10:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-19 12:35 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-19 16:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-19 19:23 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-24 7:39 ` Vinod Koul
2016-07-20 6:26 ` Robert Jarzmik
2016-07-21 9:33 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-21 9:35 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-21 9:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-22 11:00 ` Peter Ujfalusi [this message]
2016-07-14 12:42 ` [PATCH 3/7] dmaengine: omap-dma: Simplify omap_dma_callback Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-14 12:42 ` [PATCH 4/7] dmaengine: omap-dma: Dynamically allocate memory for lch_map Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-14 12:42 ` [PATCH 5/7] dmaengine: omap-dma: Add more debug information when freeing channel Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-14 12:42 ` [PATCH 6/7] dmaengine: omap-dma: Use pointer to omap_sg in slave_sg setup's loop Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-14 12:42 ` [PATCH 7/7] dmaengine: omap-dma: Support for LinkedList transfer of slave_sg Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-18 10:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-18 11:12 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-18 10:31 ` [PATCH 0/7] dmaengine:omap-dma: Linked List transfer for slave_sg Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-18 12:07 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-07-18 12:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-07-18 12:30 ` Peter Ujfalusi
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