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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Patricia Alfonso <trishalfonso@google.com>,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>,
	David Gow <davidgow@google.com>,
	linux-um@lists.infradead.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] UML: add support for KASAN under x86_64
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:41:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a51643dbff58e16cc91f33273dbc95dded57d3e6.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+YhwJK+F7Y7NaNpAwwWR-yZMfNevNp_gcBoZ+uMJRgsSA@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20200330_103904_296794_2F7C15A1)

On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 10:38 +0200, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 9:44 AM Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2020-03-20 at 16:18 +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> > > > Wait ... Now you say 0x7fbfffc000, but that is almost fine? I think you
> > > > confused the values - because I see, on userspace, the following:
> > > 
> > > Oh, sorry, I copy-pasted wrong number. I meant 0x7fff8000.
> > 
> > Right, ok.
> > 
> > > Then I would expect 0x1000 0000 0000 to work, but you say it doesn't...
> > 
> > So it just occurred to me - as I was mentioning this whole thing to
> > Richard - that there's probably somewhere some check about whether some
> > space is userspace or not.
> > 
> > I'm beginning to think that we shouldn't just map this outside of the
> > kernel memory system, but properly treat it as part of the memory that's
> > inside. And also use KASAN_VMALLOC.
> > 
> > We can probably still have it at 0x7fff8000, just need to make sure we
> > actually map it? I tried with vm_area_add_early() but it didn't really
> > work once you have vmalloc() stuff...
> 
> But we do mmap it, no? See kasan_init() -> kasan_map_memory() -> mmap.

Of course. But I meant inside the UML PTE system. We end up *unmapping*
it when loading modules, because it overlaps vmalloc space, and then we
vfree() something again, and unmap it ... because of the overlap.

And if it's *not* in the vmalloc area, then the kernel doesn't consider
it valid, and we seem to often just fault when trying to determine
whether it's valid kernel memory or not ... Though I'm not really sure I
understand the failure part of this case well yet.

johannes


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-30  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-26  0:46 Patricia Alfonso
2020-02-26  1:19 ` Brendan Higgins
2020-02-26 15:24 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-03-06  0:03 ` Patricia Alfonso
2020-03-11 10:32   ` Johannes Berg
2020-03-11 10:46     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-03-11 11:18     ` Johannes Berg
2020-03-11 11:40       ` Johannes Berg
2020-03-11 17:34       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-03-20 13:39         ` Johannes Berg
2020-03-20 15:18           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-03-30  7:43             ` Johannes Berg
2020-03-30  8:38               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-03-30  8:41                 ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2020-03-31  6:14                   ` David Gow
2020-03-31  7:43                     ` Johannes Berg
2020-03-31 16:39                   ` Patricia Alfonso
2020-03-31 16:54                     ` Richard Weinberger
2020-03-11 22:32     ` Patricia Alfonso
2020-03-11 22:44       ` Johannes Berg
2022-05-24 10:34         ` Vincent Whitchurch
2022-05-24 10:45           ` Johannes Berg
2022-05-24 19:35           ` David Gow
2022-05-25 11:17             ` Vincent Whitchurch
2022-05-26  1:01               ` [RFC PATCH v3] " David Gow
2022-05-26  9:29                 ` Johannes Berg
2022-05-27  5:31                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-05-27  7:32                   ` Johannes Berg
2022-05-27 10:36                 ` Johannes Berg
2022-05-27 13:05                 ` Johannes Berg
2022-05-27 13:09                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-05-27 13:15                     ` Johannes Berg
2022-05-27 13:18                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-05-27 13:27                         ` Johannes Berg
2022-05-27 13:52                           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-05-27 14:27                             ` Johannes Berg
2022-05-27 15:46                               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-03-29 19:06     ` [PATCH] " Richard Weinberger

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