From: Jens Remus <jremus@linux.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>,
"Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@gnu.org>,
Beau Belgrave <beaub@linux.microsoft.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>, Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 06/12] unwind_user/sframe: Wire up unwind_user to sframe
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 09:58:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a52c508c-2596-49d1-bbe8-8a92599714f6@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250708161124.23d775f4@gandalf.local.home>
On 08.07.2025 22:11, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 15:58:56 -0400
> Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>
>>> @@ -111,6 +128,8 @@ static int unwind_user_start(struct unwind_user_state *state)
>>>
>>> if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_HAVE_UNWIND_USER_COMPAT_FP) && in_compat_mode(regs))
>>> state->type = UNWIND_USER_TYPE_COMPAT_FP;
>>> + else if (current_has_sframe())
>>> + state->type = UNWIND_USER_TYPE_SFRAME;
>>
>> I think you'll want to update the state->type during the
>> traversal (in next()), because depending on whether
>> sframe is available for a given memory area of code
>> or not, the next() function can use either frame pointers
>> or sframe during the same traversal. It would be good
>> to know which is used after each specific call to next().
>
> From my understanding this sets up what is available for the task at the
> beginning.
>
> So once we say "this task has sframes" it will try to use it every time. In
> next we have:
>
> if (compat_fp_state(state)) {
> frame = &compat_fp_frame;
> } else if (sframe_state(state)) {
> /* sframe expects the frame to be local storage */
> frame = &_frame;
> if (sframe_find(state->ip, frame)) {
> if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_HAVE_UNWIND_USER_FP))
> goto done;
> frame = &fp_frame;
> }
> } else if (fp_state(state)) {
> frame = &fp_frame;
> } else {
> goto done;
> }
>
> Where if sframe_find() fails and we switch over to frame pointers, if frame
> pointers works, we can continue. But the next iteration, where the frame
> pointer finds the previous ip, that ip may be in the sframe section again.
>
> I've seen this work with my trace_printk()s. A function from code that is
> running sframes calls into a library function that has frame pointers. The
> walk walks through the frame pointers in the library, and when it hits the
> code that has sframes, it starts using that again.
I think Mathieu has a point, as unwind_user_next() calls the optional
architecture-specific arch_unwind_user_next() at the end. The x86
implementation does state->type specific processing (for
UNWIND_USER_TYPE_COMPAT_FP).
> If we switched the state to just FP, it will never try to use sframes.
>
> So this state is more about "what does this task have" than what was used
> per iteration.
While there is currently no fallback to UNWIND_USER_TYPE_COMPAT_FP that
would strictly require this, it could be useful to have both information.
Or the logic in unwind_user_start(), unwind_user_next(), and *_state()
may need to be adjusted so that state->type reflects the currently used
method, which unwind_user_next() determines and sets anew for every step.
Regards,
Jens
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-09 7:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-08 2:11 [PATCH v8 00/12] unwind_deferred: Implement sframe handling Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 2:11 ` [PATCH v8 01/12] unwind_user/sframe: Add support for reading .sframe headers Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 2:11 ` [PATCH v8 02/12] unwind_user/sframe: Store sframe section data in per-mm maple tree Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 2:11 ` [PATCH v8 03/12] x86/uaccess: Add unsafe_copy_from_user() implementation Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 2:11 ` [PATCH v8 04/12] unwind_user/sframe: Add support for reading .sframe contents Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 2:11 ` [PATCH v8 05/12] unwind_user/sframe: Detect .sframe sections in executables Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 2:11 ` [PATCH v8 06/12] unwind_user/sframe: Wire up unwind_user to sframe Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 19:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-08 20:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-09 7:58 ` Jens Remus [this message]
2025-07-09 13:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-09 13:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-09 14:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-09 14:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-09 14:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-09 15:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-10 8:03 ` Jens Remus
2025-07-10 9:26 ` Jens Remus
2025-07-10 15:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-10 20:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 2:11 ` [PATCH v8 07/12] unwind_user/sframe/x86: Enable sframe unwinding on x86 Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 2:11 ` [PATCH v8 08/12] unwind_user/sframe: Remove .sframe section on detected corruption Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 2:11 ` [PATCH v8 09/12] unwind_user/sframe: Show file name in debug output Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 2:11 ` [PATCH v8 10/12] unwind_user/sframe: Enable debugging in uaccess regions Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 3:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-08 13:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 14:34 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-07-08 14:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 15:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-08 16:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 18:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-07-08 15:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-08 2:11 ` [PATCH v8 11/12] unwind_user/sframe: Add .sframe validation option Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 2:11 ` [PATCH v8 12/12] unwind_user/sframe: Add prctl() interface for registering .sframe sections Steven Rostedt
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