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From: Jens Remus <jremus@linux.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>,
	"Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@gnu.org>,
	Beau Belgrave <beaub@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>, Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 06/12] unwind_user/sframe: Wire up unwind_user to sframe
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 09:58:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a52c508c-2596-49d1-bbe8-8a92599714f6@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250708161124.23d775f4@gandalf.local.home>

On 08.07.2025 22:11, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 15:58:56 -0400
> Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
> 
>>> @@ -111,6 +128,8 @@ static int unwind_user_start(struct unwind_user_state *state)
>>>   
>>>   	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_HAVE_UNWIND_USER_COMPAT_FP) && in_compat_mode(regs))
>>>   		state->type = UNWIND_USER_TYPE_COMPAT_FP;
>>> +	else if (current_has_sframe())
>>> +		state->type = UNWIND_USER_TYPE_SFRAME;  
>>
>> I think you'll want to update the state->type during the
>> traversal (in next()), because depending on whether
>> sframe is available for a given memory area of code
>> or not, the next() function can use either frame pointers
>> or sframe during the same traversal. It would be good
>> to know which is used after each specific call to next().
> 
> From my understanding this sets up what is available for the task at the
> beginning.
> 
> So once we say "this task has sframes" it will try to use it every time. In
> next we have:
> 
> 	if (compat_fp_state(state)) {
> 		frame = &compat_fp_frame;
> 	} else if (sframe_state(state)) {
> 		/* sframe expects the frame to be local storage */
> 		frame = &_frame;
> 		if (sframe_find(state->ip, frame)) {
> 			if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_HAVE_UNWIND_USER_FP))
> 				goto done;
> 			frame = &fp_frame;
> 		}
> 	} else if (fp_state(state)) {
> 		frame = &fp_frame;
> 	} else {
> 		goto done;
> 	}
> 
> Where if sframe_find() fails and we switch over to frame pointers, if frame
> pointers works, we can continue. But the next iteration, where the frame
> pointer finds the previous ip, that ip may be in the sframe section again.
> 
> I've seen this work with my trace_printk()s. A function from code that is
> running sframes calls into a library function that has frame pointers. The
> walk walks through the frame pointers in the library, and when it hits the
> code that has sframes, it starts using that again.

I think Mathieu has a point, as unwind_user_next() calls the optional
architecture-specific arch_unwind_user_next() at the end.  The x86
implementation does state->type specific processing (for
UNWIND_USER_TYPE_COMPAT_FP).

> If we switched the state to just FP, it will never try to use sframes.
> 
> So this state is more about "what does this task have" than what was used
> per iteration.

While there is currently no fallback to UNWIND_USER_TYPE_COMPAT_FP that
would strictly require this, it could be useful to have both information.

Or the logic in unwind_user_start(), unwind_user_next(), and *_state()
may need to be adjusted so that state->type reflects the currently used
method, which unwind_user_next() determines and sets anew for every step.

Regards,
Jens
-- 
Jens Remus
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-09  7:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-08  2:11 [PATCH v8 00/12] unwind_deferred: Implement sframe handling Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  2:11 ` [PATCH v8 01/12] unwind_user/sframe: Add support for reading .sframe headers Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  2:11 ` [PATCH v8 02/12] unwind_user/sframe: Store sframe section data in per-mm maple tree Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  2:11 ` [PATCH v8 03/12] x86/uaccess: Add unsafe_copy_from_user() implementation Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  2:11 ` [PATCH v8 04/12] unwind_user/sframe: Add support for reading .sframe contents Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  2:11 ` [PATCH v8 05/12] unwind_user/sframe: Detect .sframe sections in executables Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  2:11 ` [PATCH v8 06/12] unwind_user/sframe: Wire up unwind_user to sframe Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 19:58   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-08 20:11     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-09  7:58       ` Jens Remus [this message]
2025-07-09 13:46         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-09 13:51           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-09 14:06             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-09 14:10               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-09 14:29                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-09 15:14                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-07-10  8:03               ` Jens Remus
2025-07-10  9:26             ` Jens Remus
2025-07-10 15:30         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-10 20:51           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  2:11 ` [PATCH v8 07/12] unwind_user/sframe/x86: Enable sframe unwinding on x86 Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  2:11 ` [PATCH v8 08/12] unwind_user/sframe: Remove .sframe section on detected corruption Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  2:11 ` [PATCH v8 09/12] unwind_user/sframe: Show file name in debug output Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  2:11 ` [PATCH v8 10/12] unwind_user/sframe: Enable debugging in uaccess regions Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  3:38   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-08 13:23     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 14:34       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-07-08 14:41         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 15:53           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-08 16:31             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 18:57               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-07-08 15:52         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-08  2:11 ` [PATCH v8 11/12] unwind_user/sframe: Add .sframe validation option Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  2:11 ` [PATCH v8 12/12] unwind_user/sframe: Add prctl() interface for registering .sframe sections Steven Rostedt

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