From: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>
To: Hongyu Xie <xy521521@gmail.com>,
stern@rowland.harvard.edu, oneukum@suse.com
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, brauner@kernel.org,
jlayton@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xiehongyu1@kylinos.cn
Subject: Re: [PATCH next] usb: usbfs: Add reset_resume for usbfs
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 09:42:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a648a2b3-026a-445c-8154-2da43b641570@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6419a4e9-e084-4eb6-8376-9202930ea8be@kylinos.cn>
On 17.07.24 03:43, Hongyu Xie wrote:
> From: Hongyu Xie <xiehongyu1@kylinos.cn>
Hi,
sorry for being incomprehensible. I'll try to do better.
> From what I know, that CONFIG_USB_DEFAULT_PERSIST is enabled by default. Then udev->persist_enabled is set to 1 and this causing udev->reset_resume set to 1 during init2 in hub_activate.
> During resume,
> usb_resume_both
> usb_resume_device
> generic_resume
> usb_port_resume
> finish_port_resume
> usb_reset_and_verify_device (if udev->reset_resume is 1)
> hub_port_init
> hub_port_reset
> usb_resume_interface (udev->reset_resume is 1 but usbfs doesn't have reset_resume implementation so set intf->needs_binding to 1, and it will be rebind in usb_resume_complete)
That is correct. But even if CONFIG_USB_DEFAULT_PERSIST were not set, losing power
would just lead to reenumeration by another code path. Devices reset themselves
when they are power cycled. There is no way around that.
> Even before usbfs->reset_resume is called (if there is one), the USB device has already been reset
Yes, it has been reset.
> and in a good state.
No, it is not. Or rather, it is in the wrong state. This is not a question of good and bad.
It is a question of being in the same state.
> After all that thaw_processes is called and user-space application runs again.
Yes. And user space does not know what has happened.
>
> So I still don't understand why "the race necessarily exists". Can you show me an example that usbfs->reset_resume causes race?
Sure. Let's look at the example of a scanner attached to the host.
OS Scanning process (in user space)
1. Set a resolution
2. Going to S4
3. Returning to S0
4. Initiate a scan
As you can see the system would now scan at the wrong resolution. Step#4
has to fail. As there is no synchronization between S4 and user space, initiating
the scan can always be the last step.
For this to work, reset_resume() would have to restore the correct resolution. The kernel
cannot do so.
Regards
Oliver
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-17 7:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-11 8:43 Hongyu Xie
2024-07-11 8:59 ` Oliver Neukum
2024-07-11 14:41 ` Alan Stern
2024-07-15 8:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2024-07-15 14:22 ` Alan Stern
2024-07-16 12:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2024-07-17 1:43 ` Hongyu Xie
2024-07-17 2:05 ` Alan Stern
2024-07-17 3:13 ` Hongyu Xie
2024-07-17 7:52 ` Oliver Neukum
2024-07-17 13:44 ` Alan Stern
2024-07-17 15:27 ` Oliver Neukum
2024-07-17 7:42 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2024-07-18 3:23 ` Hongyu Xie
2024-07-12 3:10 ` Hongyu Xie
2024-07-13 2:22 ` Alan Stern
2024-07-15 1:13 ` Hongyu Xie
2024-07-15 8:40 ` Oliver Neukum
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