From: Subhra Mazumdar <subhra.mazumdar@oracle.com>
To: "Jan H. Schönherr" <jschoenh@amazon.de>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/60] Coscheduling for Linux
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:53:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a68891ae-468b-da35-61ee-a3136c6e64c1@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <90282ce3-dd14-73dc-fb9f-e78bb4042221@amazon.de>
On 09/18/2018 04:44 AM, Jan H. Schönherr wrote:
> On 09/18/2018 02:33 AM, Subhra Mazumdar wrote:
>> On 09/07/2018 02:39 PM, Jan H. Schönherr wrote:
>>> A) Quickstart guide for the impatient.
>>> --------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Here is a quickstart guide to set up coscheduling at core-level for
>>> selected tasks on an SMT-capable system:
>>>
>>> 1. Apply the patch series to v4.19-rc2.
>>> 2. Compile with "CONFIG_COSCHEDULING=y".
>>> 3. Boot into the newly built kernel with an additional kernel command line
>>> argument "cosched_max_level=1" to enable coscheduling up to core-level.
>>> 4. Create one or more cgroups and set their "cpu.scheduled" to "1".
>>> 5. Put tasks into the created cgroups and set their affinity explicitly.
>>> 6. Enjoy tasks of the same group and on the same core executing
>>> simultaneously, whenever they are executed.
>>>
>>> You are not restricted to coscheduling at core-level. Just select higher
>>> numbers in steps 3 and 4. See also further below for more information, esp.
>>> when you want to try higher numbers on larger systems.
>>>
>>> Setting affinity explicitly for tasks within coscheduled cgroups is
>>> currently necessary, as the load balancing portion is still missing in this
>>> series.
>>>
>> I don't get the affinity part. If I create two cgroups by giving them only
>> cpu shares (no cpuset) and set their cpu.scheduled=1, will this ensure
>> co-scheduling of each group on core level for all cores in the system?
> Short answer: Yes. But ignoring the affinity part will very likely result in
> a poor experience with this patch set.
>
>
> I was referring to the CPU affinity of a task, that you can set via
> sched_setaffinity() from within a program or via taskset from the command
> line. For each task/thread within a cgroup, you should set the affinity to
> exactly one CPU. Otherwise -- as the load balancing part is still missing --
> you might end up with all tasks running on one CPU or some other unfortunate
> load distribution.
>
> Coscheduling itself does not care about the load, so each group will be
> (co-)scheduled at core level, no matter where the tasks ended up.
>
> Regards
> Jan
>
> PS: Below is an example to illustrate the resulting schedules a bit better,
> and what might happen, if you don't bind the to-be-coscheduled tasks to
> individual CPUs.
>
>
>
> For example, consider a dual-core system with SMT (i.e. 4 CPUs in total),
> two task groups A and B, and tasks within them a0, a1, .. and b0, b1, ..
> respectively.
>
> Let the system topology look like this:
>
> System (level 2)
> / \
> Core 0 Core 1 (level 1)
> / \ / \
> CPU0 CPU1 CPU2 CPU3 (level 0)
>
>
> If you set cpu.scheduled=1 for A and B, each core will be coscheduled
> independently, if there are tasks of A or B on the core. Assuming there
> are runnable tasks in A and B and some other tasks on a core, you will
> see a schedule like:
>
> A -> B -> other tasks -> A -> B -> other tasks -> ...
>
> (or some permutation thereof) happen synchronously across both CPUs
> of a core -- with no guarantees which tasks within A/within B/
> within the other tasks will execute simultaneously -- and with no
> guarantee what will execute on the other two CPUs simultaneously. (The
> distribution of CPU time between A, B, and other tasks follows the usual
> CFS weight proportional distribution, just at core level.) If neither
> CPU of a core has any runnable tasks of a certain group, it won't be part
> of the schedule (e.g., A -> other -> A -> other).
>
> With cpu.scheduled=2, you lift this schedule to system-level and you would
> see it happen across all four CPUs synchronously. With cpu.scheduled=0, you
> get this schedule at CPU-level as we're all used to with no synchronization
> between CPUs. (It gets a tad more interesting, when you start mixing groups
> with cpu.scheduled=1 and =2.)
>
>
> Here are some schedules, that you might see, with A and B coscheduled at
> core level (and that can be enforced this way (along the horizontal dimension)
> by setting the affinity of tasks; without setting the affinity, it could be
> any of them):
>
> Tasks equally distributed within A and B:
>
> t CPU0 CPU1 CPU2 CPU3
> 0 a0 a1 b2 b3
> 1 a0 a1 other other
> 2 b0 b1 other other
> 3 b0 b1 a2 a3
> 4 other other a2 a3
> 5 other other b2 b3
>
> All tasks within A and B on one CPU:
>
> t CPU0 CPU1 CPU2 CPU3
> 0 a0 -- other other
> 1 a1 -- other other
> 2 b0 -- other other
> 3 b1 -- other other
> 4 other other other other
> 5 a2 -- other other
> 6 a3 -- other other
> 7 b2 -- other other
> 8 b3 -- other other
>
> Tasks within a group equally distributed across one core:
>
> t CPU0 CPU1 CPU2 CPU3
> 0 a0 a2 b1 b3
> 1 a0 a3 other other
> 2 a1 a3 other other
> 3 a1 a2 b0 b3
> 4 other other b0 b2
> 5 other other b1 b2
>
> You will never see an A-task sharing a core with a B-task at any point in time
> (except for the 2 microseconds or so, that the collective context switch takes).
>
Ok got it. Can we have a more generic interface, like specifying a set of
task ids to be co-scheduled with a particular level rather than tying this
with cgroups? KVMs may not always run with cgroups and there might be other
use cases where we might want co-scheduling that doesn't relate to cgroups.
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Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-07 21:39 Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:39 ` [RFC 01/60] sched: Store task_group->se[] pointers as part of cfs_rq Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:39 ` [RFC 02/60] sched: Introduce set_entity_cfs() to place a SE into a certain CFS runqueue Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:39 ` [RFC 03/60] sched: Setup sched_domain_shared for all sched_domains Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:39 ` [RFC 04/60] sched: Replace sd_numa_mask() hack with something sane Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:39 ` [RFC 05/60] sched: Allow to retrieve the sched_domain_topology Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:39 ` [RFC 06/60] sched: Add a lock-free variant of resched_cpu() Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:39 ` [RFC 07/60] sched: Reduce dependencies of init_tg_cfs_entry() Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:39 ` [RFC 08/60] sched: Move init_entity_runnable_average() into init_tg_cfs_entry() Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:39 ` [RFC 09/60] sched: Do not require a CFS in init_tg_cfs_entry() Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:39 ` [RFC 10/60] sched: Use parent_entity() in more places Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:39 ` [RFC 11/60] locking/lockdep: Increase number of supported lockdep subclasses Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:39 ` [RFC 12/60] locking/lockdep: Make cookie generator accessible Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 13/60] sched: Remove useless checks for root task-group Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 14/60] sched: Refactor sync_throttle() to accept a CFS runqueue as argument Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 15/60] sched: Introduce parent_cfs_rq() and use it Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 16/60] sched: Preparatory code movement Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 17/60] sched: Introduce and use generic task group CFS traversal functions Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 18/60] sched: Fix return value of SCHED_WARN_ON() Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 19/60] sched: Add entity variants of enqueue_task_fair() and dequeue_task_fair() Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 20/60] sched: Let {en,de}queue_entity_fair() work with a varying amount of tasks Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 21/60] sched: Add entity variants of put_prev_task_fair() and set_curr_task_fair() Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 22/60] cosched: Add config option for coscheduling support Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 23/60] cosched: Add core data structures for coscheduling Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 24/60] cosched: Do minimal pre-SMP coscheduler initialization Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 25/60] cosched: Prepare scheduling domain topology for coscheduling Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 26/60] cosched: Construct runqueue hierarchy Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 27/60] cosched: Add some small helper functions for later use Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 28/60] cosched: Add is_sd_se() to distinguish SD-SEs from TG-SEs Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 29/60] cosched: Adjust code reflecting on the total number of CFS tasks on a CPU Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 30/60] cosched: Disallow share modification on task groups for now Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 31/60] cosched: Don't disable idle tick " Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 32/60] cosched: Specialize parent_cfs_rq() for hierarchical runqueues Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 33/60] cosched: Allow resched_curr() to be called " Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 34/60] cosched: Add rq_of() variants for different use cases Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 35/60] cosched: Adjust rq_lock() functions to work with hierarchical runqueues Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 36/60] cosched: Use hrq_of() for rq_clock() and rq_clock_task() Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 37/60] cosched: Use hrq_of() for (indirect calls to) ___update_load_sum() Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 38/60] cosched: Skip updates on non-CPU runqueues in cfs_rq_util_change() Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 39/60] cosched: Adjust task group management for hierarchical runqueues Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 40/60] cosched: Keep track of task group hierarchy within each SD-RQ Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 41/60] cosched: Introduce locking for leader activities Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 42/60] cosched: Introduce locking for (mostly) enqueuing and dequeuing Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 43/60] cosched: Add for_each_sched_entity() variant for owned entities Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 44/60] cosched: Perform various rq_of() adjustments in scheduler code Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 45/60] cosched: Continue to account all load on per-CPU runqueues Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 46/60] cosched: Warn on throttling attempts of non-CPU runqueues Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 47/60] cosched: Adjust SE traversal and locking for common leader activities Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 48/60] cosched: Adjust SE traversal and locking for yielding and buddies Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 49/60] cosched: Adjust locking for enqueuing and dequeueing Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 50/60] cosched: Propagate load changes across hierarchy levels Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 51/60] cosched: Hacky work-around to avoid observing zero weight SD-SE Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 52/60] cosched: Support SD-SEs in enqueuing and dequeuing Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 53/60] cosched: Prevent balancing related functions from crossing hierarchy levels Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 54/60] cosched: Support idling in a coscheduled set Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 55/60] cosched: Adjust task selection for coscheduling Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 56/60] cosched: Adjust wakeup preemption rules " Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 57/60] cosched: Add sysfs interface to configure coscheduling on cgroups Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 58/60] cosched: Switch runqueues between regular scheduling and coscheduling Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 59/60] cosched: Handle non-atomicity during switches to and from coscheduling Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-07 21:40 ` [RFC 60/60] cosched: Add command line argument to enable coscheduling Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-10 2:50 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-09-12 0:24 ` [RFC 00/60] Coscheduling for Linux Nishanth Aravamudan
2018-09-12 19:34 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-12 23:15 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2018-09-13 11:31 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-13 18:16 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2018-09-12 23:18 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-13 3:05 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2018-09-13 19:19 ` [RFC 61/60] cosched: Accumulated fixes and improvements Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-26 17:25 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2018-09-26 21:05 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2018-10-01 9:13 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-14 11:12 ` [RFC 00/60] Coscheduling for Linux Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-14 16:25 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-15 8:48 ` Task group cleanups and optimizations (was: Re: [RFC 00/60] Coscheduling for Linux) Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-17 9:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-18 13:22 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-18 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-18 13:54 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-18 13:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-18 14:35 ` Rik van Riel
2018-09-19 9:23 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-11-23 16:51 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-12-04 13:23 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-17 11:33 ` [RFC 00/60] Coscheduling for Linux Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-02 22:13 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2018-09-17 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-26 9:58 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-27 18:36 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2018-11-23 16:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-09-17 13:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-26 9:35 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-18 14:40 ` Rik van Riel
2018-09-24 15:23 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-24 18:01 ` Rik van Riel
2018-09-18 0:33 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2018-09-18 11:44 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-19 21:53 ` Subhra Mazumdar [this message]
2018-09-24 15:43 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-09-27 18:12 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2018-10-04 13:29 ` Jon Masters
2018-10-17 2:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-10-19 11:40 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-10-19 14:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-10-19 15:16 ` Rik van Riel
2018-10-19 15:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-10-19 15:45 ` Rik van Riel
2018-10-19 19:07 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-10-19 0:26 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2018-10-26 23:44 ` Jan H. Schönherr
2018-10-29 22:52 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2018-10-26 23:05 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2018-10-27 0:07 ` Jan H. Schönherr
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