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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: paul@xen.org, Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 syzbot+352e553a86e0d75f5120@syzkaller.appspotmail.com,
	Paul Durrant <pdurrant@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] KVM: x86: Setup Hyper-V TSC page before Xen PV clocks (during clock update)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 09:16:29 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a71d0215ebc34e132081e856f116ca5fcbda41b4.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eb45ff29-f551-483e-9930-1fa545fb83aa@xen.org>

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On Tue, 2025-01-21 at 15:59 +0000, Paul Durrant wrote:
> On 21/01/2025 15:44, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> [snip]
> > 
> > I think it's ok to keep the Hyper-V TSC page in this case.  It's not that the Xen
> > PV clock is truly unstable, it's that some guests get tripped up by the STABLE
> > flag.  A guest that can't handle the STABLE flag has bigger problems than the
> > existence of a completely unrelated clock that is implied to be stable.
> > 
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> > > I don't know if anyone combines Xen and Hyper-V emulation capabilities for
> > > the same guest on KVM though.)
> > 
> > That someone would have to be quite "brave" :-D
> 
> Maybe :-)

Xen itself does offer some Hyper-V enlightenments, and we might
reasonably expect KVM-based hypervisors to offer the same. We
explicitly do account for the KVM CPUID leaves moving up to let the
Hyper-V ones exist.

I don't recall if Xen's Hyper-V support includes the TSC page though.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-21 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-18  0:55 [PATCH 00/10] KVM: x86: pvclock fixes and cleanups Sean Christopherson
2025-01-18  0:55 ` [PATCH 01/10] KVM: x86: Don't take kvm->lock when iterating over vCPUs in suspend notifier Sean Christopherson
2025-01-21 16:01   ` Paul Durrant
2025-01-18  0:55 ` [PATCH 02/10] KVM: x86: Eliminate "handling" of impossible errors during SUSPEND Sean Christopherson
2025-01-21 16:03   ` Paul Durrant
2025-01-18  0:55 ` [PATCH 03/10] KVM: x86: Drop local pvclock_flags variable in kvm_guest_time_update() Sean Christopherson
2025-01-21 16:05   ` Paul Durrant
2025-01-18  0:55 ` [PATCH 04/10] KVM: x86: Set PVCLOCK_GUEST_STOPPED only for kvmclock, not for Xen PV clock Sean Christopherson
2025-01-21 16:42   ` Paul Durrant
2025-01-21 17:09     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-21 17:15       ` Paul Durrant
2025-01-21 18:32         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-18  0:55 ` [PATCH 05/10] KVM: x86: Don't bleed PVCLOCK_GUEST_STOPPED across PV clocks Sean Christopherson
2025-01-21 16:54   ` Paul Durrant
2025-01-21 17:11     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-18  0:55 ` [PATCH 06/10] KVM: x86/xen: Use guest's copy of pvclock when starting timer Sean Christopherson
2025-01-21 16:58   ` Paul Durrant
2025-01-21 18:45     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-18  0:55 ` [PATCH 07/10] KVM: x86: Pass reference pvclock as a param to kvm_setup_guest_pvclock() Sean Christopherson
2025-01-21 17:00   ` Paul Durrant
2025-01-18  0:55 ` [PATCH 08/10] KVM: x86: Remove per-vCPU "cache" of its reference pvclock Sean Christopherson
2025-01-21 17:03   ` Paul Durrant
2025-01-18  0:55 ` [PATCH 09/10] KVM: x86: Setup Hyper-V TSC page before Xen PV clocks (during clock update) Sean Christopherson
2025-01-20 14:49   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2025-01-21 15:44     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-21 15:59       ` Paul Durrant
2025-01-21 17:16         ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2025-01-21 17:30           ` Paul Durrant
2025-01-18  0:55 ` [PATCH 10/10] KVM: x86: Override TSC_STABLE flag for Xen PV clocks in kvm_guest_time_update() Sean Christopherson
2025-01-21 17:05   ` Paul Durrant

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