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From: "Satyam Sharma" <satyam.sharma@gmail.com>
To: "Alexander Wuerstlein" <arw@arw.name>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Johannes Schlumberger"
	<spjsschl@stud.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Check files' signatures before doing suid/sgid [2/4]
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 01:06:58 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a781481a0706221236t3b399afdkf2e07cb109fba226@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1182536729847-git-send-email-arw@arw.name>

Hi Alexander, Johannes,

[ Added linux-crypto to Cc: ]

Wow, this is _one_ *intrusive* patchset indeed :-)

But first: Have you checked the digsig project? It's been doing
(for some time) what your current patchset proposes -- and
it uses public key cryptosystems for the key management,
which is decidedly better than using secret-keyed hashes
(HMAC, XCBC). Also, digsig aims to protect executable
binaries in general, and not just suid / sgid ones.

Second: Can we have some discussion on the security model /
threat model / trust model / cryptographic key management
scheme of your signing mechanism? [I had read through the
[0/4] mail you had sent yesterday, but found no relevant
discussion on these aspects there.]

>From the patchset, it appears you use a *common* secret key
for _all_ signed binaries, and it is set at kernel build-time itself:

On 6/22/07, Alexander Wuerstlein <arw@arw.name> wrote:
> sns_secret_key.dat contains the 'secret key' which is used for HMAC.

Where:

> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/security/sns_secret_key.dat
> +#define SNS_SECRET_KEY_SIZE 8
> +static char sns_secret_key[SNS_SECRET_KEY_SIZE] =
> +       {
> +               'd', 'e', 'a', 'd', 'b', 'e', 'e', 'f'
> +       };

[ Ok, I won't nitpick as to why does this file look like a header,
is #include-d in the C source as a header, but still has a .dat
extension :-) ]

Anyway, this is *totally* insecure and broken. Do you realize anybody
who lays hands on the kernel image can now _trivially_ extract the
should-have-been-a-secret key from it and use it to sign his own
binaries?

Satyam

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-22 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-21 15:55 [PATCH] signed binaries support [0/4] Johannes Schlumberger
2007-06-21 16:17 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-21 16:29   ` Alexander Wuerstlein
2007-06-21 17:23     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-21 17:34       ` Alexander Wuerstlein
2007-06-21 18:05         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-21 18:21           ` Johannes Schlumberger
2007-06-22 18:25 ` [PATCH] export xattr_resolve_name_sns [1/4] Alexander Wuerstlein
2007-06-22 18:25 ` [PATCH] Check files' signatures before doing suid/sgid [2/4] Alexander Wuerstlein
2007-06-22 19:36   ` Satyam Sharma [this message]
2007-06-24 22:58     ` Alexander Wuerstlein
2007-06-25 23:53       ` Satyam Sharma
2007-06-26  0:27         ` Alexander Wuerstlein
2007-06-26  2:13           ` Satyam Sharma
2007-06-23 17:54   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-22 18:25 ` [PATCH] sns: check related executable memory of binaries [3/4] Alexander Wuerstlein
2007-06-22 18:25 ` [PATCH] sns: add syscall to check signed state of a process [4/4] Alexander Wuerstlein
2007-06-21 16:02 [PATCH] Check files' signatures before doing suid/sgid [2/4] Alexander Wuerstlein
2007-06-21 17:17 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-21 17:25   ` Alexander Wuerstlein
2007-06-21 17:29     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-21 17:46       ` Alexander Wuerstlein
2007-06-21 18:49         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-21 21:40           ` Johannes Schlumberger
2007-06-23 18:01         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-25 10:54           ` Johannes Schlumberger

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