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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: "Li, Xin3" <xin3.li@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Cc: "tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"brgerst@gmail.com" <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	"Bae, Chang Seok" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/5] x86/gsseg: use the LKGS instruction if available for load_gs_index()
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 08:08:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a7e33fc8-3333-02a3-903b-ae6ffbf09f3d@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR1101MB21614EE46D700C24E7D77E8FA82A9@BN6PR1101MB2161.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>


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On 20.10.22 07:58, Li, Xin3 wrote:
>> On 19.10.22 19:45, Li, Xin3 wrote:
>>>>> +static inline void __init lkgs_init(void) { #ifdef
>>>>> +CONFIG_PARAVIRT_XXL #ifdef CONFIG_X86_64
>>>>> +	if (cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_LKGS))
>>>>> +		pv_ops.cpu.load_gs_index = native_lkgs;
>>>>
>>>> For this to work correctly when running as a Xen PV guest, you need
>>>> to add
>>>>
>>>> 	setup_clear_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_LKGS);
>>>>
>>>> to xen_init_capabilities() in arch/x86/xen/enlighten_pv.c, as
>>>> otherwise the Xen specific .load_gs_index vector will be overwritten.
>>>
>>> Yeah, we definitely should add it to disable LKGS in a Xen PV guest.
>>>
>>> So does it mean that the Xen PV uses a black list during feature detection?
>>> If yes then new features are often required to be masked with an
>>> explicit call to setup_clear_cpu_cap.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't a white list be better?
>>> Then the job is more just on the Xen PV side, and it can selectively
>>> enable a new feature, sometimes with Xen PV specific handling code added.
>>
>> This is not how it works. Feature detection is generic code, so we'd need to
>> tweak that for switching to a whitelist.
>>
> 
> Yes, a Xen PV guest is basically a Linux system.  However IIRC, the Xen PV
> CPUID is para-virtualized, so it's Xen hypervisor's responsibility to decide
> features exposed to a Xen PV guest.  No?

In theory you are right, of course.

OTOH the Xen PV interface has a long and complicated history, and we have to
deal with old hypervisor versions, too.

>> Additionally most features don't require any Xen PV specific handling. This is
>> needed for some paravirtualized privileged operations only. So switching to a
>> whitelist would add more effort.
>>
> 
> LKGS is allowed only in ring 0, thus only Xen hypervisor could use it.

Right, it would be one of the features where a whitelist would be nice.

OTOH today only 11 features need special handling in Xen PV guests, while
the rest of more than 300 features doesn't.


Juergen

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-20  6:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-19  9:50 [PATCH v4 0/5] Enable LKGS instruction Xin Li
2022-10-19  9:50 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] x86/cpufeature: add the cpu feature bit for LKGS Xin Li
2022-10-19  9:50 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] x86/opcode: add the LKGS instruction to x86-opcode-map Xin Li
2022-10-19  9:50 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] x86/gsseg: make asm_load_gs_index() take an u16 Xin Li
2022-10-19  9:50 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] x86/gsseg: move load_gs_index() to its own new header file Xin Li
2022-10-19  9:50 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] x86/gsseg: use the LKGS instruction if available for load_gs_index() Xin Li
2022-10-19 12:16   ` Juergen Gross
2022-10-19 17:45     ` Li, Xin3
2022-10-19 18:01       ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-10-20  4:54         ` Juergen Gross
2022-10-20  6:05           ` Li, Xin3
2022-10-20  4:53       ` Juergen Gross
2022-10-20  5:58         ` Li, Xin3
2022-10-20  6:08           ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2022-10-20  6:24             ` Li, Xin3
2022-10-19 10:23 [PATCH v4 0/5] x86: Enable LKGS instruction Xin Li
2022-10-19 10:23 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] x86/gsseg: use the LKGS instruction if available for load_gs_index() Xin Li

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