From: Miaoqing Pan <quic_miaoqing@quicinc.com>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: Jeff Johnson <jeff.johnson@oss.qualcomm.com>,
<ath11k@lists.infradead.org>, <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <johan+linaro@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 ath-next 2/2] wifi: ath11k: fix HTC rx insufficient length
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 14:47:12 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a8fc9f07-013c-4e31-9d9e-46e042d81dbf@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z9mwn3GzpPPZSiTG@hovoldconsulting.com>
On 3/19/2025 1:42 AM, Johan Hovold wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 03:53:39PM +0800, Miaoqing Pan wrote:
>> On 3/17/2025 9:04 PM, Johan Hovold wrote:
>
>>> Then it seems we are looking at two separate root causes for the
>>> corruption as the memory barrier appears to be all that is needed to fix
>>> the X13s issue.
>>>
>>> A user who hit the corruption after 2 h without the fix has been running
>>> over the weekend with the memory barrier without any problems. I'll ask
>>> further users to test, but it certainly looks like it is working as
>>> intended.
>>>
>>> And the memory barrier is de-facto missing as the head pointer and
>>> descriptor are accessed through (two separate) coherent mappings so
>>> there are no ordering guarantees without explicit barriers.
>>
>> This situation should occur when there is only one descriptor in the
>> ring. If, as you mentioned, the CPU tries to load the descriptor first,
>> but the descriptor fetch fails before the HP load because the ring
>> returns empty, it won't trigger the current issue.
>
> It could if the CPU observes the updates out of order due to the missing
> barrier. The driver could be processing an earlier interrupt when the
> new descriptor is added and head pointer updated. If for example the CPU
> speculatively fetches the descriptor before the head pointer is updated,
> then the descriptor length may be zero when the CPU sees the updated
> head pointer.
>
Sorry, I still think this situation won't happen. Please see the
following code.
ath11k_hal_srng_access_begin(ab, srng);
=> srng->u.dst_ring.cached_hp = *srng->u.dst_ring.hp_addr;
desc = ath11k_hal_srng_dst_get_next_entry(ab, srng);
=> if (srng->u.dst_ring.tp == srng->u.dst_ring.cached_hp) return NULL;
//dma_rmb();
*nbytes = ath11k_hal_ce_dst_status_get_length(desc);
If the condition 'srng->u.dst_ring.tp == srng->u.dst_ring.cached_hp' is
true, the descriptor retrieval fails.
> This seems to be what is happening on the X13s since adding the memory
> barrier makes the zero-length descriptors go away.
>
Hmm, it is indeed a bit strange. Could it be that dma_rmb() introduces
some delay ?
>> The Copy Engine hardware module copies the metadata to the Status
>> Descriptor after the DMA is complete, then updates the HP to trigger an
>> interrupt. I think there might be some issues in this process, such as
>> the lack of a wmb instruction after the copy is complete, causing the HP
>> to be updated first.
>
> Yeah, possibly. At least it seems there are more issues than the missing
> barrier on the machines you test.
>
>>> Now obviously there are further issues in your system, which we should
>>> make sure we understand before adding workarounds to the driver.
>>>
>>> Do you have a pointer to the downstream kernel sources you are testing
>>> with? Or even better, can you reproduce the issue with mainline after
>>> adding the PCIe patches that were posted to the lists for these
>>> platforms?
>>>
>> https://github.com/qualcomm-linux/meta-qcom-hwe/blob/scarthgap/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-qcom-base_6.6.bb
>
> Thanks for the pointer. That's a lot of out-of-tree patches on top of
> stable so not that easy to check the state of the resulting tree.
>
Yes, but there are only a few patches for ath11k.
>>> Does it make any difference if you use a full rmb() barrier?
>>>
>> I've also tried rmb() and mb(), but they didn't work either.
>
> Thanks for checking.
>
> Just to be sure, you did add the barrier in the same place as my patch
> (i.e. just before the descriptor read)?
>
Yes.
>>> And after modifying ath11k_hal_ce_dst_status_get_length() so that it
>>> does not clear the length, how many times you need to retry? Does it
>>> always work on the second try?
>>
>> Yes, the test has been running continuously for over 48 hours, always
>> work on the second try, updated in patch v4.
>
> Good, at least the descriptor-length-sometimes-never-updated issue is
> solved.
>
> Johan
Yeah, thanks for pointing out the issue.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-19 6:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-10 1:02 [PATCH v2 ath-next 0/2] " Miaoqing Pan
2025-03-10 1:02 ` [PATCH v2 ath-next 1/2] wifi: ath11k: add function to get next srng desc Miaoqing Pan
2025-03-10 1:02 ` [PATCH v2 ath-next 2/2] wifi: ath11k: fix HTC rx insufficient length Miaoqing Pan
2025-03-10 10:09 ` Johan Hovold
2025-03-11 8:29 ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-03-11 15:20 ` Jeff Johnson
2025-03-12 1:11 ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-03-12 16:43 ` Johan Hovold
2025-03-13 1:41 ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-03-13 15:57 ` Johan Hovold
2025-03-14 0:46 ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-03-13 13:31 ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-03-13 16:14 ` Johan Hovold
2025-03-14 1:01 ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-03-14 8:06 ` Johan Hovold
2025-03-14 8:19 ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-03-17 5:52 ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-03-17 13:04 ` Johan Hovold
2025-03-18 7:53 ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-03-18 17:42 ` Johan Hovold
2025-03-19 6:47 ` Miaoqing Pan [this message]
2025-03-21 9:35 ` Johan Hovold
2025-03-25 1:04 ` Miaoqing Pan
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